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My Obamacare Nightmare Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by madgator, Jan 21, 2014.

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    actually the Bush tax cuts let me keep more of what I earned-not sure how you get that it was redistribution

    but the ACA is definitely redistribution of the wealth
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    Why do always assume that people are ignorant on all topics with explanations that considering how elementary they are, are rife with condescension?

    in fact one my jobs requirements for my first job out of school. I did this for a very large multi-disciplined facility which was a listed provider for something like 60 or so carriers.

    I can tell you that it's very rare to have to drop a carrier for fee schedule issue. Especially at the primary care level. Which is what we're talking about here. It's even more rare to drop a LARGE carriers PPO schedule. Most doctors are willing to forgo higher fees for volume.

    Those fee schedules have to really low for a provider to drop a major carrier. Been seeing it with Medicare for few years now with specialists. Very disturbing to see this on a primary care level with major carriers.
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    Again, this has already been discussed.......the cost increase of the second new plan I am enrolling in in the past two months is increasing my expense 80% over my original plan.

    The first PPO plan I switched to in december was 35% more expensive than my original plan. The doctor opted out of that plan, I'm assuming, to start the new year. So if I want to keep my doctor, that second plan is my cheapest option.
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    Verti, May I ask what you do/did for a living?
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    worked in insurance dept of our local hospital for a lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time, before acquiring two coding certificates, and going into the physician coding dept.
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    In this case significant=any.
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    depends on what is considered 'significant'.
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    True, and if the terms/coverages changed at all, that was considered significant.
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    When did you move to Colorado?;)
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    You need to eat more Brussels sprouts, squash and spinach. Throw in collards. Deeper the green the better.

    If only I followed my own advice.:)
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    Move back to Ky. Moonshine is less delusional.
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    something tells me that if this was your situation you would not be happy with the changes either. The changes were not for the better for the customer and the changes were mandated by ACA.
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    verti....those of us who have known you a very long time in here do respect and like you---we don't harbor any ill will, just totally disagree with you on many things. Some, you are I are on the same page as you know.

    I said that to say this....sincerely. A year from now, when this entire clusterscrew blows up to holy hell and is tenfold worse than it is now....will you PLEASE come back here and admit just how incredibly wrong, off-base, out in galactic left field you are on Obamascam?? You won't be tossed to the wolves and eaten alive, but will gain some respect for owning up to the gullibility so many supporters of this debacle have fallen for. There are others in here who will likely not show their faces ever again once the abyss opens up and consumes the entire healthcare industry--a couple of them not missed whatsoever. But I'm asking you to come back so we can hear you admit the error of your ways.

    Sorry dear, but when it comes to this scam law--there is NO WAY IN HELL you or anyone else can even begin to defend how the law has already screwed up the healthcare world, and the forthcoming economic implosion once the real effects begin to show themselves. A functioning brain simply can not defend it....it is THAT much of a failure from the beginning.
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    Here's what amuses me about Vert's finger of blame pointed toward insurance companies, rather than the ACA law: this same law financially protects the same insurance companies via the American taxpayer in case (and likely so) the demographics of enrollment turn out to be adverse. We have the Left trying to make us angry with the insurance industry while at the same time the Left (via the ACA) has contractually obligated us to pay for private companies' losses. Halliburton/Schmallashurtin...this will be one of the largest bailouts in history.

    The Left's talking point is effectively " pay no attention to the man in the Oval Office, whose name is reflected in this legislation...no, no, no - it's the big, bad, bogeyman insurance companies...bad, insurance people....bad"
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    Who are to tell another person the product they are purchasing in not adequate?

    In fact the new product appears to be quite a bit more inadequate as a persons doctor they trust is much more important to me than paying for another persons BC etc...

    Get off your arrogant elitist self and try to respect others and what they deem and "adequate" product!
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    The only redistribution in the bush tax cuts were for people with kids making under a certain amount. They got an extra $500 check for each kid courtesy of those without kids and the "rich"...
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    Ding Ding Ding!

    Yet Vert thinks W redistributed to the "rich" (he redistributed to those with kids making LESS than a certain amount of income) when in fact it will be the law vert is defending that redistributes to who vert is blaming on this thread.

    You can't make this stuff up!
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    No matter where you get your article, your own analysis is complete bovine excrement. If a person has a policy they are happy with, that meets their needs, who the hell is the government to mandate that they have to pay for garbage they do not need? Abortion on demand, Obamacare will cover it. Birth control pills for a male, Obamacare will cover it. Condoms, Obamacare will cover it. Don't need this coverage, Obamacare says FU, you're gonna pay for it anyway.

    That is your entire argument, which goes to show how bad your analysis really is. The insurance company is not to blame for Obama forcing all policies to cover for just about everything under the sun. And, it is not cost efficient for the companies to bring the older policies up to some new, unnecessary and unwanted code. That is Obamacare and the Democrat's ACA, NOT the insurnace companies.
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