My assessment of WM is changing...

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  1. Gatorrick22
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    Our great season next year, IMHO, will be as baffling as our bad season was last year... I mean, we'll have a great year next year with 9+ wins... And no one will ask why this happened, yet they'll be happy that it did happen.

    Let's just hope that we keep up the good work consistently from now on...
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    Outside of the Cook fiasco, he appears to have done fairly well during this off season. Taking into consideration how awful our season was and the strength of our rivals, recruiting has gone well up to this moment. I hesitate to call any class a success until signing day is over and all of the LOI's are in. I don't understand how some can project our depth chart and include verbal commitments on it, as some did with Cook and Lane. We've all seen how volatile this can be, as it has worked both to our benefit and detriment.

    I like the Roper and Summers hires. Barring something unforeseen, I have a hard time believing that we won't improve on offense.

    My assessment isn't likely to change (for the good or bad) until next fall. What needs to happen is very clear and we should have our answer sooner as opposed to later.
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    Considering how bad the offense was this year, it would almost impossible not to improve on offense. At 113th in points (18.8) and 115th in total offense (316.7) there's simply no place to go but up. The question then really isn't if we'll improve, but how much. That's where the jury is still out. Even 2012's totals of 78th in points (26.6) and 104th in yards (334) wouldn't be a solid improvement IMHO. The bar really has to be higher - maybe at least 30 points and 400 yards per game? That would have us ranked in the 50s and 70s this past season, respectively, but it also would have taken the defense off the hook in a lot of games. I don't expect Roper to work miracles in one season, but taking us out of a nickle-and-dime mentality would be a really good start.
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    No you don't understand it, you said as much, "The "razor thin margin for error" does not cause poor kicking, NFL attrition and injuries (your indicators from your message)." Nor did he say those issues caused the philosophy, you're very obviously gaslighting.
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    Exactly. The philosophy caused the losses when many of the other variables went south.
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    ^^^LoL, thanks guys. I didn't think it was that hard of a concept. I just didn't even know where to begin to respond to those comments.
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    Jimbo was 31-10 with a conference championship after 3 years....

    Will is 22-16 with 0 conference titles...
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    Yes because both have faced the same obstacles. Even with our horrible offenses trying to compare the two's situation is not feasible.
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    Yeah its like comparing oranges to apples, at the same time though some coaches come in and light it on fire from day 1, (like urban) and some that take a few years to get things clicking (jimbo and hopefully WM). IMO this year will be proving time. I think everyone agrees we've seen some really good things from Muschamps teams.....and some very very bad.
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    Isn't letting the public attending practice a little overrated. What difference does it make.? The local gainesvillians get to attend. Why would anybody give a rip.? I'm sure im not going to drive a couple hrs for a stupid practice.
    . Man ur talkin about practice, I mean are we really talkin bout practice? Not a real game man... were talkin practice.

    I agree with 1,3 and 4.
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    Does it bother anyone that Will is willing to dump his core principles because of a one bad year (which a lot of you claim was strictly due to injuries)
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    agreed

    but his notion that FSU fans wanted Jimbo out is off-base (sure, some fans were not thrilled with him, but it's nothing like what Will is/was facing from Gator Nation)
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    I'd say three years of bad results. I'm sure his goals include winning the East and winning SEC titles. At least I hope they are. Danny Devito could dunk on his list of accolades. It's short!
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    True. Big difference being they had a tired Bobby leaving so their expectations were a little down. We had Meyer, who his last year did nothing, had won two titles so Muschamp was held higher automatically coming in.
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    More like he's adjusting with the new offenses of today's football. Nick Saban is currently approaching a similar direction, so I'd say it's a fairly good idea.
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    Yeah and the man he probably learned it from is doing the same thing. Go figure........
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    Lane Kiffin does not run a spread offense afaik
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    He runs a different one then Saban was using.
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    Agree. At this point, words mean nothing..show me.
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    I can see where you're coming from and as much as i dislike the comparison of our strength of schedules, it's the schedule we're given and we still have to win those games..it' the reason the SEC is the best conference in cllege football.
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