Muschamp addresses if TOP helps you win football games

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    http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=26356

    On preparing for a team that dominates time of possession:

    Its more of winning or losing football games. Certainly you got to find ways to get off the field on third downs. With a lot of two back teams that run the ball very effectively, its hard to give them negative plays. So you're going to be managing a lot of third and threes, third and fours, and a lot of third and fives, which are an easier conversion for an offense to go on third down.

    So I think that's where it changes, you've got to be patient in the game with something like that, you cant get impatient as far as how you're calling the game defensively. I think those are things I've always kind of looked at. Its good from the standpoint of their offense isn't on the field, but I don't know that there is any direct relation of winning football games on ball possession.
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    I caught that while watching, too. He wants to control the clock against tempo, no-huddle teams because they can wear down a defense with their pace, but it is not general philosophical commitment or something on his part.
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    Controlling TOP is very effective if you actually pay off drives. But when you put together 7+ minute drives only to end the possession by turning it over, committing a crucial penalty, or missing a FG, that's when you start to get in trouble and let the other team kind of hang around.
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    It's nice to see that Champ studies up on the statistics of football. Winning TOP doesn't really mean anything. If you dominate it, it usually is an indicator that you were stopping the other team on third down -- something we have been doing a lot.
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    yeah its bad when you get in the red zone and turn it over five times. otherwise it is a good strategy. they can't score if they don't have the ball(unless we give it to them). i feel confident with tyler murphy, the guy looked poised. if he doesn't turn the ball over the TOP strategy will be great for us because our running game will only keep getting better and then defense is great.
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    It's effective once you have a lead late.
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    It's a sad day when the head coach disagrees with you...
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    Pretty sure its bad to turn over the ball five times in the RZ regardless of what style of offense you run.
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    That's right, you've got to score to make it work, unless, of course, your opponent can't score either, then you end up in a 7-3 "shootout". As long as you win, it makes no difference. Now if your D and special teams can chip in, then you have UF vs USC 2012.
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    yeah i got you, agree agree grumpy
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    You would actually be surprised on how many coaches are in the dark ages in many sports.
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    Well luckily, we haven't done that much the last two games. We have seen much better RZ production by the Gator offense against both UT and UK.
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    Why the eye roll? If you thought I was being sarcastic, I wasn't. I follow too many teams with coaches who ignore statistical analysis, and it kills them. Too many coaches are in the dark ages in regards to stats.

    Theres a reason the teams like the Rays and A's are in the playoffs with a fifth of the payroll of teams like the Phillies and Yankees.

    Anyway, in actual regards to the topic, TOP is one of those things that actually has no proven bearing on the outcome of the game. It's usually an indicator of something else, like good defense.
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    Well, it's been stated that the best defense is a good offense and controlling the ball is very beneficial to our D. Not saying that we have a good offense, but I think it's coming around. But a previous poster was correct when he said that a time consuming drive needs to end in points. I think in a post after the miami game someone stated that we ran the clock out for miami or something like that. So our time consuming drives hurt us since we used up all the clock without getting points.
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    The eye roll is for all the posters who seem to believe that the current Gator staff ignore statistical analysis.
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    Ah, I see. I wasn't saying that I thought that he did, it's just nice to see another example of it.
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    I think it is a good strategy in certain situations.

    What would worry me is for example being up by 6 on Georgia and trying to run out the clock, all they would need is one good run blitz on 3rd and 3 and then one drive by Murray to steal the game. I would want a bigger lead on a good QB.

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