You are both right (Samdingo and jhbyrd). Losing to the crappy teams were what made it happen when it happened, but the pressure was high and rising due to the whippings the much younger Gator staff was putting on the much older nole staff. I have a dear friend who is a nole lifer and a big booster. He sits in season tickets at Doak that have his father's name embroidered on them, since his father was a star on fsu's first couple of football teams and was himself a big booster. My friend was crying as early as 2006 about how dark and ominous the future was at fsu with the relative ages of the coaches and the way that the Gators were whipping the noles on the field, and out-recruiting them. Of course, Urban's emotional collapse changed everything.