moderate leads in early Iranian returns

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    Green party turn out after flirting with boycott has him with 50% of the vote and way ahead of others. Hope this continues.

    "TEHRAN — Iranian officials spent Saturday tallying votes in the nation’s presidential election, with a surge of interest apparently swinging the tide in the favor of the most moderate candidate. With a fraction of the vote counted, the moderate candidate, Hassan Rowhani, was holding a strong lead, but it was uncertain whether he would exceed the 50 percent threshold needed to avoid a runoff next week.

    .....The early results seemed to be a repudiation of the coalition of conservative clerics and Revolutionary Guard commanders, the so-called traditionalists, who consolidated power after the 2009 election, which the opposition said was rigged. The traditionalists’ favored candidate, Saeed Jalili, Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator and a protégé of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, did not seem to have gained much traction with the public, emphasizing vague concepts like “Islamic society” and standing up to Western pressure......

    .......Nonetheless many veteran Iran political watchers, who had expected a conservative winner in what had been a carefully vetted and controlled campaign, expressed surprise.

    “If the reports are true, it tells me that there was a hidden but huge reservoir of reformist energy in Iran that broke loose in a true political wave,” said Cliff Kupchan, an Iran analyst for the Eurasia Group, a political risk consulting firm in Washington. “It was unpredictable — not even tip of the iceberg visible two days or three days ago — but it seems to have happened.”...."

    www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/world/middleeast/iran-election.html?hp&_r=0
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    LA times now says he appears headed for a landslide victory.
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    Done deal.

    I imagine a full cessation of nuclear activity within the week. :no:
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    Indeed. There was a ranking a few years ago that put Ahmadinejad at something like the 18th most powerful person in Iran. 18th! We are talking about the replacing the Paul Ryan of Iran. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is still obviously the deal there.
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    Oh no there won't be some dramatic change now that this guy has won. But with Ahmadinejad gone and replaced with someone who maybe won't make such inflammatory statements it'll be a lot harder for people here to fearmonger and sell the propaganda campaign for the war with Iran they want. It's bad enough they just got their way with their president deciding to get involved in Syria.
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    Few people (if any) want war with Iran and fewer still did it solely based off Ahmadinejad's comments. As most people know, he wasn't the ones calling the shots there--but his comments were backed by those that do call the shots (which should be enough to scare most sane people on their face). If you remember, Ahmadinejad wasn't reprimanded for saying the inflammatory comments, he was reprimanded for challenging the real leadership.

    A more moderate figurehead doesn't stop them from being dangerous though. In my estimation, that makes them even more dangerous.
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    Moderate? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Let the people take to the streets for freedom and watch how moderate he is.
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    he ran on a platform that included anti-american and pro nuclear stances...otherwise he would not have been allowed to run. nothing will change behind the scenes but Iran will use him to try and buy more time and plead their case to the bleeding hearts while the ayatollah pushes for the bomb.
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    All great movements begin with symbolic acts.
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    All ruling cliques in modern populous countries have to at least keep one eye looking over their shoulder at popular sentiment, less they become the next Mubarak, Qaddafi, or Shah and therefore the election is a positive development, if limited. The Iranian stock market hit a five year high today and streets are scenes of great celebration.

    Pictures: www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2013/06/130615_l93_election_celebration.shtml

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    "dancing/chanting about Sohrab Aarabi killed in '09: "Sohrab wake up, we got your vote back" "

    "Just came home after driving around Tehran dancing & screaming without a headscarf... Hadn't done that before."

    "There is no stopping to the wild street parties, in my neighborhood groups of men boogieing down to Iranian pop songs"

    "Chants: “Bye Bye AhmdiNejad” Has there ever been such a sigh of relief 4 a departing President in #Iran? No @Vahid http://t.co/IOmssp3omO"
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    Yep, rightwing conservatives in any country sure can make life difficult. Good to see the moderate win here. Maybe now we can start to see some progress through negotiations between Iran and the USA.
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    They don't call it an Islamic revolution for nothing.
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    Life changing pusuaviveness. My ideology just took a permanent 180.
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    rajin, no it didn't. You'll always be out there rajin on the right.
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    It's replacing one puppet of the Mullah's with another. Except this time it's not a terrorist when Ahmadinejad was one during the Carter admin.
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    No, but they think this will keep them safer with the bomb than with a nut-case. That's just BS, because they'll just reelect a nut-case after we (the countries that don't want a nuclear Iran) stand down.

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