MLK and the March on Washington

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    Today, being the 50th anniversary of MLk's speech, just emphazied what a great leader and speaker he was.
    It showed what real leaders do and say .
    In comparision of MLK and Obama speaking ability, leadership, and dedication to making this country a better place for everyone, Martin Luther King wins hands down.
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    There is a difference, of course, between The Legend of MLK and The Man of MLK.

    The Legend is a perfect, infallible and right martyr.

    MLK is now more iconography than historical figure.
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    MLK was a greater speaker than Obama, or virtually any American before or since. The odds are that if you are white and were alive at the time, there be about a 50-50 chance you would hate his guts and complain about outside agitators. Even now, more Georgia Republicans like Paula Deen than MLK.
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    The sad truth is that he has a great message - treat quality people as quality people and not strictly by the color of their skin - but it has been usurped by ambitious opportunists. I hope that there are some out there who can listen/watch old speeches and recognize that the power structure has not moved them towards this message. It will take courage to break away, and probably be ostracized for it, but it is the only way to get back on track.
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    You are ignoring much of what MLK favored and died acting on.
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    Its interesting that he's been claimed by almost everyone now. Of course, being a real person and not a myth, there are facets of his writings, speeches and political ideas that have been overlooked or ignored in the iconography, because they might be troublesome.
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    We remember "I Have a Dream," but we overlook some of the demands of the marchers:

    It wasnt just about "treating people equally," there was a component of gov't led social/economic justice too.
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    Say it ain't so!
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    And so, now that virtually all of those "marchers' demands" have been met - and many, many more - all African Americans are happy, happy, happy, all is well with every one of them, and there shouldn't be anything else to complain about.
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    Thomas Sowell once wrote that we can tell a lot about how much has changed by two things;

    1.) The issues championed by black leaders that are discriminatory.
    2.) The quality of the leaders

    The issues facing black today are much different than the ones fifty years ago. And the best and brightest are no longer civil rights leaders. They have become leaders of government and business. What we are left with are the Jacksons and the Sharptons of the world.
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    the struggle (for economic redistribution) continues.....
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    We have a friend(haven't talked to him in years) who was the Asst DA in Memphis in the 60s. He told me they were concerned for his safety when he was in Memphis... said it was common knowledge MLK had a penchant for white ladies and that his handlers were known to arrange visitors for him. He loved the ladies.... I remember thinking "hmm, can't blame him for that". All of our so called great leaders had personal issues. That's just the human condition. It doesn't at all change to me the greater ideas they stood for.
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    Could be we remember that speech because it was the one worth remembering, the one that said something universally relatable and resonant. Maybe the reality of that event is that, in a game full of ground outs, line outs, walks, hit batsmen, etc, that speech was the home run.

    In fact, I will go further -- notice how there is really just the one definitive, enduring pull quote? Sure, sometimes people let a few other 'dreams' play, but isn't the iconic takeaway the "content of their character" line? Because that was the one that hit home, every home.
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    The only economic justice is being left to do what you will with that which you earn. All else is economic injustice.
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    I heard this morning that he was a republican. Also Hussein couldn't hold MLK's jock strap. I think MLK was an American hero.
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    I don't doubt that he, and Mandela, have/had some pretty bad warts but I am focusing on this message and not the remaining elements. Nothing wrong with embracing a message regardless of the messenger. Now if you are saying the the current crop of "leaders" are just moving his ball forward (kind of like Stalin moving Lenin's) then we will agree to disagree.
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    MLK Sr. was a republican


    MLK Jr. was no party affiliation but supported democrats throughout the '60s
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    And ... ACTION

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    Many have, but $2 minimum wage in 1963 adjusts to ~$15 in 2013, so we're still pretty far on some of those.

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