Missouri execution to effect YOUR health

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    Wow, I didn't realize that it was that complicated to make/duplicate.
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    i haven't had any cases canceled in the last year for anesthesia drug shortages, where do you practice? i have had shortages of morphine and some antibiotics.
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    Good lord, how many executions are they expecting to perform?
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    Issue isn't that the executions use it all up, it's that if it is classified as being used in performing executions a bunch of EU rules requiring certification that a given export is not and will not be used in administering capital punishment become applicable.

    Which creates a giant paperwork headache that takes a long time to sort out, and existing stocks would be depleted before additional exports could make it through that process and be approved.
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    Appears they are trying to stay a few steps ahead of Obamacare's deathpanels. Must be lots of old people in Mizzou.:ninja:
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    Sorry, thought I was being funny. Need to work on that I guess. :laugh:
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    That whole lack of a sarcasm indicator on TH rears its ugly head once again :laugh:
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    Screw that... I say we jack those killers up with morphine and watch them OD.
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    Just posting again to point out that this issue has been resolved because Missouri has returned the drugs to the supplier, mooting the issue. See the link in post 22.
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    Well, sort of. My understanding is the EU regs apply if they believe there is a possibility the drug could be used in executions, so use of a domestic supply for capital punishment could still land it on the EU export restricted list.

    Granted, this is just what I've gathered from news, haven't looked into the issue further.
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    I believe Missouri was the only state looking to use it as a substitute drug for capital punishment.
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    San Fran I believe
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    I work in the SF bay area----when shortage hit last year we had to shut down anesthesia sedation at 3 GI centers---they did their cases with verses and fentanyl----which are great, except for there are many narcotic tolerant patients in the area.....for which it proved inadequate.

    We also had a surgery center delay opening until it could secure propofol.

    In the hospitals we could no longer do TIVA cases----had to use gas on all cases---even though it was not the first choice.

    Finally---cases we usually did with propofol sedation became full general anesthesia cases to reduce propofol usage----rationing if you will.
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    Aha!! Thanks for the information!! I didn't gather that from the OP.
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    The whole thing is ridiculous---they sell tons of equipment to some of the most despotic regimes in the world----yet will boycott the us over propofol----but they will send EVERYTHING to gulf states that supress women, gays, jews, christians, etc.......
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    Execution DEALYED---thanks to the American Society of Anesthesiology. Your access to anesthesia ensured.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nixon-halts-execution-citing-propofol-concerns-20545116
    Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon on Friday halted what was to have been the first U.S. execution to use the popular anesthetic propofol, following threats from the European Union to limit the drug's export if it were used for that purpose.

    Nixon also ordered the Missouri Department of Corrections to come up with a different way to perform lethal injections without propofol, the leading anesthetic used in America's hospitals and clinics. Nearly 90 percent of the nation's propofol is imported from Europe.

    "As governor, my interest is in making sure justice is served and public health is protected," Nixon said in a statement. "That is why, in light of the issues that have been raised surrounding the use of propofol in executions, I have directed the Department of Corrections that the execution of Allen Nicklasson, as set for October 23, will not proceed."

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