Mike Shula's Stint @ Bama

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    Interesting read. Show's you one good year only buys you so much in the SEC.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shula

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    Mike Shula was hired as head coach at Alabama in May 2003 after the termination of Mike Price.[3][4] At the time of his arrival, the program was in great turmoil despite a 10-3 record the previous year. In that year, the program had been hammered by NCAA sanctions, and lost Dennis Franchione to Texas A&M,[5] and subsequently fired Mike Price due to his off-field actions.[4] At the time, he was the second-youngest coach in all of Division I-A football, at age 38.

    He was hired on a six-year, $5.4 million contract.[3]

    2003 – With the loss of several players from the 2002 team, and an offense that was not fully installed due to time constraints, Alabama suffered through a 4–9 season in 2003. The season was marked by close losses and fourth quarter collapses. In games decided by one score or less, Alabama was 0–6 on the season. Alabama lost overtime games to Arkansas and Tennessee, and generally seemed to be close but not close enough to breaking through virtually all season.

    2004 – The 2004 season got off to a quick start with Alabama quickly moving to 3–0 with blowout wins over Middle Tennessee, Mississippi, and Western Carolina. However, against Western Carolina, star quarterback Brodie Croyle tore his right ACL on a pass attempt, ending his season.[6] The injury effectively marked the beginning of the end for the 2004 season. The offense sputtered the rest of the way while suffering even more injuries to several other key players. Starting tailback Ray Hudson suffered a season ending knee injury three weeks later against Kentucky, and starting fullback Tim Castille also suffered a season ending knee injury the following week in the fourth quarter against Tennessee. Backup quarterback Marc Guillon and backup tailback Kenneth Darby were also sidelined due to injuries. Alabama hobbled down the stretch to finish the year 6–6. By the time of the Iron Bowl, the Crimson Tide had a third-string quarterback, with a fourth-string tailback, two true freshman wide receivers, and a true freshman tight end. The season was, like the year before, marred by close losses. Shula did, however, lead Alabama to its first bowl game since the 2001 season, with a berth in the 2004 Music City Bowl against the Minnesota Golden Gophers. Alabama lost the game after the third-string quarterback Spencer Pennington sailed a pass over the head of Tyrone Prothro, who was open in the back of the endzone, and failed to convert on a 4th-and-5.[7]

    2005 – The 2005 season would see fortunes turn around for Shula and his Alabama team. Despite a catastrophic leg injury suffered by star wide receiver Tyrone Prothro, Alabama went 10–2 with a victory in the 2006 Cotton Bowl Classic over the Mike Leach-led Texas Tech Red Raiders. The season included blowout wins over Florida and South Carolina, and also included a 6–3 win in a defensive classic over rival Tennessee. Alabama was ranked third in the nation and in the National Championship chase before losing at home in overtime to LSU and by rival Auburn on the road. The relative success gave Shula his first 10–win season in just his third year as head coach and also extended Alabama's lead in respect to having the most 10–win seasons of any program in the nation. Furthermore, the Cotton Bowl Classic appearance and victory extended Alabama's lead in playing in, and winning, more bowl games than any other major school. The Tide finished the season ranked eighth in the nation.

    Following the season, the university gave Shula a contract extension—6 years, $1.8 million per year.[8]

    2006 – Although few expected Alabama to win 10 games again in 2006, expectations generally still called for a solid eight or nine win season. The Tide jumped out of the gate playing well, moving to 3–0 on the heels of clutch kicking and the solid quarterback play of John Parker Wilson. The team suffered two consecutive losses to the Arkansas Razorbacks and, the eventual national champion, Florida Gators. The Tide struggled the rest of the year, as the offense could not consistently move the ball once inside the red zone, and the defense played below previous standards. The Tide lost to rivals Tennessee after leading for over fifty minutes. Alabama ended the season by losing their final three games to Mississippi State at home, LSU, and their fifth consecutive loss to rivals Auburn, ending with a 6–6 record. On November 26, one week after the Iron Bowl loss, Alabama athletic director Mal Moore notified Mike Shula that he would not be retained as the University of Alabama's head football coach for the 2007 season.[9] The University of Alabama had to pay Shula $4 million left on his contract after they fired him.
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    That can't be right. No way Bama could have fired Shula 1 season after going 10-2. Only here at UF with our extremely spoiled fans does that happen.- Every other school in the nation has extreme patience. You are a liar!
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    They did have Nick Saban in Miami waiting for a call.....
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    Mike Shula, the best coach in Alabama history, let go before he could become the next Bear Bryant (and exceed Bryant's accomplishments). How could they do something so stupid? Didn't they know it would cause them to lose the heart of the recruiting class? That is one spoiled fanbase. They'll probably never know what it's like to be number one in the country in time-of-possession. Fools!
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    Yes it is so true. We need to all aspire to those paragons of reason and civility - bama fans. Thanks for lighting the way.
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    To the notion that we should emulate the fan base in question I recall the saying "even a broken clock is right twice a day". How about ”even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while"?

    I've seen close hand what that "fanbase" aka cretins is about. if they hadn't stumbled on Satan, they'd still be talking about how their latest coach ain't like the "Bear".
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    Or how about Tennessee firing National champion SEC champion coach Fulmer 1 season removed from a 10 win season where they won the SEC east title?

    Or Auburn getting rid of Tuberville 2 seasons removed from a 11 win season and 1 season removed from a 9 win season? Heck he once went 13-0.

    Even lowly Ole Miss fired Nutt 2 years removed from back to back 9 win seasons (which is like 12 wins for a top program).

    Ole miss also fired Cutcliffe 1 season removed from a 10-3 season.

    Miami fired Coker after just one 7-6 season which broke a streak of first 5 seasons of 9+ wins (53-9 record through first 5 seasons including 1 title and 2 title game appearances).

    Maryland fired Ralph Friedgen after a 9-4 season a decade reign which made him one of the most successful Maryland coaches in decades including an ACC title.

    Nebraska fired Frank Solich after a 9-3 season. Solich's record at Nebraska was 58-19 and he had 3 top 10 finishes and 2 top 20 finishes in his 6 seasons at Nebraska.

    USC fired Lane Kiffin just over 1 season removed from a 10-2 season and they are on probation.

    But apparently we are spoiled and WM should get another year just because.
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    Uh sure. Do any of those examples include just giving the coach three years? Hell, four years even? Ya know, I'm gonna go for five. None of them right? Maybe you're arguing that UF should be exceptional in that regard or maybe at least as exceptional as the toilet roll wearing tide fans.
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    Lane Kiffen was fired by USC after less than 3.5 seasons and they are on probation.

    Shula was fired after 4 seasons and he took over a terrible Bama program unlike our "broken" program that was stocked full of 5 stars and had just won 2 titles.

    Ole Miss fired Nutt after 4 season and they are a lower program. All they could wait was 4 seasons. Premier programs have a shorter leash.

    Coker won a title, played for another, and went 12-0, 12-1, 11-2, 9-3, 9-3, 7-6 and then was fired. His first 3 seasons were insane and his 4th, 5th seasons were much better than WM's 1st and 3rd seasons.

    Solich went 9-4, 12-1, 10-2, 11-2, 7-7, 9-3 and then was fired. The only reason he got 6 seasons was because his first 4 seasons were so good.

    WM has gone 7-6, 11-2, 4-5 (5-7 probably)- 22-13 record, no SEC east titles in 3 seasons.

    As you can see, big name programs like Bama and USC take quick action in firing you within 3-4 years at max if no results are produced. Coker had 6 because his first 3 seasons were great.
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    we need to make a move now
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    Even Bama and USCw gave their coaches a fourth year. Mittens was on short leash when he got there and some believed incoming AD Pat Haden would fire him immediately as a sign that sanctioned USC was cleaning house.

    Muschamp will get his barring a conviction of murder or drug dealing. Keep your fingers crossed that he fails terribly as he may get a fifth year if there is noticeable improvement from this year. I wouldn't bet against that if I were you.
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    Rep for starting this thread to show that we are not the entitled, spoiled fan base some like to think we are. Also add Chizik to the list. Canned 2 years after winning a dang NC.

    First is was that we were spoiled for wanting to see more offense - wins were the only thing that mattered. Now that we aren't winning, we are spoiled for wanting better coaching. Stop moving the goal posts. The coach-defending agenda must be a confusing one. It forces you to disparage our own players (their fault), our own fans (spoiled), and the most successful coach in our history (bare cupboard).
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    Four years - not one of those teams didn't give their coach a fourth try. It isn't that confusing or hard to understand. I want better coaching too. Muschamp gets at least one more year to deliver whether you like it or not. You need to accept that's not going to change or maybe turn your pitchforks on Foley.
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    Giving Muschamp another year would be a waste. He hasn't developed any offensive talent in three years, why do y'all expect some miracle is gonna happen in year 4?
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    LOL!! As spoiled and entitled as our fans are, they are no where near as obnoxious as Bama fans. For the Bammers, football isn't an obsession, it is a mental illness.
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    There is no helping some people OP. A large section of the UT fan base wanted to keep Dooley too cause it had only been 3 years. He just needed more time. Nevermind he submarined the program like WM is in the process of doing.

    A lot of the pro WM crowd will disappear when FSU hangs 50 in the swamp and embarrasses us.
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    he might be given a 4th yeat but he will then be fired.
    Anyone think next year will be any better?
    I don't.
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    I feel wm will get his 4th year, but only because there is no super star coach out there to go after right now. If there were, Foley might pull the trigger.
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    Dooleys' offense scored a lot of points (35 ppg average in 2012) which is what fans at UF want. Maybe we should hire him instead, is he still available? He'd have to get a different shade of orange pants though.
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    Whos to say there will be a super star coach out there after next year either?

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