Meckinberger vs. Murphy by the Numbers

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  1. orangeblueorangeblue

    orangeblueorangeblue Well-Known Member

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    hint: the offense goes against the defense
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    If we hit our scoring average, it should be enough for us to pull out a W. :joecool:
  3. orangeblueorangeblue

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    To wit:

    Miami: 45 ppg, 21 against UF
    Arkansas: 32 ppg, 10 against UF
    Toledo: 29 ppg, 6 against UF
    UT: 32 ppg, 17 against UF
    Kentucky: 23 ppg, 7 against UF

    Let me know when this sinks in.
  4. BayouBengal

    BayouBengal New Member

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    I have to disagree, since the team that scores the most points is guaranteed to win every game, I think it is a very meaningful statistic.

    Surprised you don't understand this most fundamental of football tenets.
  5. orangeblueorangeblue

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    I suppose somehow you are still under the impression that your offense plays against our offense?

    Or perhaps that the game begins with your average points-per-game to date?

    Or maybe you've just never actually watched football before?

    These are the only explanations to how you would not understand that your offensive production is directly related to the opposing defensive production.
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    OK, how about this, after Saturday we will have established the following:

    LSU > UF in 2013
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    12.2 is better than 24.7

    Aren't numbers cool?
  8. orangeblueorangeblue

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    The first hint I gave you was that offenses play against defenses.

    Here's the second: so far we've held opponents to 24 fewer points per game than they averaged against other teams.
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    agreed.
  10. orangeblueorangeblue

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    Are you seriously gloating before the game has even happened?

    Is this the level of discourse that we can expect from other Tigers fans or are you particularly :drool:
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    Of course... but your offense goes against our defense, so it's probably not getting to 20 points without some help from your defense and/or special teams.

    And our improving offense goes against your defense, so 20+ points would seem to be pretty likely.

    Turn overs and special teams will probably be the difference in this game. I just hope we don't have to rely on our kicking game to win it.

    I like us something like 27-17, assuming turnovers and special teams play are a wash.
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    Based off of Miami's avg of 45 Pts per game that means LSU will score 21 points versus UF. If UF does its offensive average of 25 then UF wins. As a bonus UF no longer starts the QB that was turning the ball over vs Miami but we are without our best DT.
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    This is not your older brother's LSU defense. While Tigger fan is excited about the #23 ranked offense, Gator fans are proud of their #2 ranked defense.

    Florida has played two teams that yield fewer yards than LSU's 44th ranked defense. Lsu has not played a defense nearly as good as Florida. LSU has the 52nd ranked scoring defense, while Florida sits at #4. LSU's scoring offense is ranked #9, while the Gators are #92.

    While the Gator offense seemingly lags way behind the defense, the rankings merely suggest 1) strength on strength 2) a reasonable edge for LSU's offense. Pair that with playing at home and it's easy to see why the Tiggers are favored by 7.

    There is, however, a tendency for teams with defensive strength to overcome teams with offensive strength. Anyone claiming to know the outcome of this game is either a homer or just guessing. Should be a GREAT SEC matchup and I hope for en epic battle resulting in a Gator victory.
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    His QB ratings were 89, 89, and 77 in October of 2012, then in November were 149 (against Alabama), 161, 112, and 129. It was the disparity in his performance between the middle of the season (October) and the end (November) that I had in mind when I said he started playing better towards the end of the season.
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    Now keep in mind, 14 of those 21 Miami points were aided by our turnovers.
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    To be fair you haven't exactly played the top offenses either

    Miami-#25
    Arkansas#83
    Toledo#65
    UT#90
    Kentucky#84

    If LSU's stats are inflated because of who they have faced...than so is Gators defense.
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    And LSU is #23, a whopping .2 ypg more than Miami, whom we held some 200+yards under their average.
  18. orangeblueorangeblue

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    We have played (and largely shut down) a top 25 offense, you haven't sniffed a top 25 defense.

    We at least have some demonstrated proof of our ranking.
  19. orangeblueorangeblue

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    Point of reference, nobody has come close to limiting Miami (212 yards) to as few yards as we did. Closest was FAU at 503 yards. We outperformed their second most stout defensive opponent by 136%.

    You put up 449 yards on Georgia. Here's what other teams did:

    Clemson: 467 yards (4% better)
    USC: 454 yards (1% better)
    Tennessee (#90 total offense, remember?): 392 yards in regulation (12% worse)
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    You're wearing out your welcome with stupidity like this. I'm 95% sure you're trolling, and we don't really need opposing trolls on our board.

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