Meanwhile, we made a deal with Iran

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    Obama to speak shortly apparently
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    Iran got what they wanted and 0 gets some pub to take the heat off his broken promises. Iran will not honr whatever promises they amde and they will dare 0 to punish them for breaking the deal. Once they get ther $8B and all the spar parts they need they will tell the inspectors to get out again and we will start the dance all over again. Meanwhile, Iran will the time they need to complete their trigger design and testing.
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    So we had Iran over a barrel economically, almost to the point of waiving the white flag if we'd kept the pressure up without flinching….and this is the best deal we could get?
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    0 needed something to take the light off of his broken promises, our broken economy, and his broken website so he was willing to take whatever he could get and they knew that.

    The worst possible deal for 0 was no deal. We negotiated from a position of weakness.
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    Obama to Iran: If you like your nuclear reactor you can keep your nuclear reactor.
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    period

    only this is a promise he is willing to keep
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    I think that Obama making a deal with Iran to distract from his health care debacle is better than him bombing Iran to distract from his health care debacle. The latter is what I was afraid of, Obama promising us an Affordable Iran War.
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    how about no deal and we are increasing the sanctions until Iran complies with the UN Security Council resolutions. Bombing or capitulating were not the only options
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    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304337404579211742820387758?mod=hp_opinion
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    details bing posted

    unreal. 0 gave away the house in exchange for a handful of promises and no destruction of any of their capabilities. I am sure they will disclose all of their 20% enriched material honestly and do not have any hidden away anywhere.
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    Are you suggesting that there was something else that Gator fans might have been distracted with today?

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    Good to see sanctions working to create a deal versus war

    Let's hope it sticks
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    Looks like our deal was "if I were to give you some money, out of my wallet, would that ease the pain?"

    This is the deal I've known Obama would make, and strut around like a peacock over -- in exchange for immediate sanction relief, Iran makes some illusory promises that they won't fulfill.
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    Mathew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."
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    Wah!
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    There is one obstacle that this deal will have to overcome before this deal leads to a successful and lasting agreement: the hardliners in Iran...and in the USA. Both sides have their paranoids a-holes that will do their best to undermine this deal so it's not successful. They need to be stifled.
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    It's just embarrassing to watch liberal Obama fanboys act like he hit this out of the park, when every term of the agreement went the Mullahs' way. Iran made a couple of really shallow and essentially empty promises and in exchange are getting sanction lifted now and even getting to watch us go further into debt to pay them for their trouble and inconvenience.
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    BBC analysis:

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    If fully implemented, sort a wanly optimistic way of conceding that nothing is actually required of Iran that significantly derails their ambitions to be nuclear-armed. Our bribe money will go straight into R&D.

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