Meanwhile back on the Korean Peninsula

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  1. VAg8r1

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    Still hoping for the best, but as I suggested in the other threads on the subject praising Trump maybe we're counting our chickens before they hatch. Previous posts from the Trump supporters made denuclearization seem to be a done deal. Maybe it will actually happen but we shouldn't count on it until an agreement is actually signed and any agreement includes rigorous verification.

    North Korea threatens to withdraw from summit with Trump: Report

    North Korea reportedly cancels meeting with South Korea, threatens US summit over military drills
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    This stuff might just be part of negotiation tactics while still planning to meet, but in the end they will never denuclearize after working so hard to get this far. They'll leverage their status as a nuclear power with a crazy leader to get whatever they can out of us. That's all this is.
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    There were reports that their "test site" collapsed?

    Nuke test mountain collapse may be why Kim Jong-un actually shut down site

    Most likely this is just some game they are playing in the meantime.
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    See the movie "Team America World Police". I tried to find a clip to post, but they are to funny--and foul to post here.
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    Keep the sanctions on and they will come to the table... This is all brinkmanship.
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    Yeah, perhaps, but why are we still doing military drills on the lead up to the summit? Like some of NKs "good will gestures" canceling the exercises seems a pretty easy gesture to look like you are serious too.
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    Trump just showed that America can't be trusted to uphold their ends of these deals anyway... nk should just pull out and wait for a better us regime to work with.
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    Like the adminstrations they have been "Working" with for the last 30 years?
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    That could be it..but no one knows.
    Anyone who thought there was going to be no hiccups has never negotiated in their life.

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    and you pretend to hope for success......come on. Be honest. You're hoping for complete failure
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    Based on precedent, they could've gotten to keep our citizens being held captive and squeezed a half billion in cash out of us......maybe that's why they're thinking twice.
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    Not beyond the realm of possibility that NK will draw out negotiations over the next two years.
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    NK knew about these exercises that have been planned well in advance, and, according to reports, were OK with them. Our good gesture has been meeting with him (twice with sos and upcoming with the potus) and offering econ. assistance if he decides to comply fully.

    This is all a negotiation tactic that IMO we should completely ignore. If it isn't......its better know to now that NK isn't serious than later downstream.
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    I'm pretty sure there's at least one poster on this forum who has already advanced that theory.
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    I'm hoping for success even it is the result of the efforts of an otherwise despicable human being. I'm also realistic and I will believe it when it happens. Unlike you and the other Trump acolytes I do not have blind faith in the Dear Leader. Kim, his father and grandfather played four different US presidents and Kim may play Trump the way his predecessors were played. it's also possible that instead of the Kim family Trump may be played by Xi and Putin.
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    My personal opinion on this is Kim(with the blessings of China) is playing chess while Trump is playing checkers.

    For stability in the region I hope I am wrong.

    I just can't help but think that China would like Trump to be made a fool on this.
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    IDK. Trump embraces his inner fool, lies or tweaks it in whatever direction he wants, then doubles down, claiming victory in the process.

    Not sure you can "get somebody" by playing to their strong suit. ;)
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    Nobel Peace Prize they said

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