McConnell and Rand get their story straight

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    ""I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise. We're willing to negotiate.' I think... I don't think they poll tested we won't negotiate. I think it's awful for [Democrats] to say that over and over again," Paul said.
    "Yeah, I do too and I, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them and that, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly," McConnell agreed.

    Paul added, "I think if we keep saying, 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that and that we're willing to compromise on this', I think they can't, we're gonna, I think... well, I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this, I think."​

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/rand-paul-mitch-mcconnell-hot-mic_n_4036591.html
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    So? The Pubs are negotiating. Or have you been listening to Pravda-west?
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    What are they offering?
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    more than your beloved prezBO

    see preazBO is in a corner-he failed with Syria and it had made him look what he actually is WEAK- so he will not negotiate things that he probably knows is in the best interest of the country because he is AFRAID he will once again be perceived as WEAK- which of course he is
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    Where in that are they colluding to get their story straight? I see two people talking about what they've experienced in prior interviews and what should be discussed, and how they're upset the other side keeps saying they won't negotiate. Nothing sinister there....the headline makes it seem like they're lying and talking about keeping their stories straight. :roll:
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    Well. they are definitely talking about keeping their stories straight, but I'll leave it to you to decide for yourself if they are lying. For my part I give them more credit for their intelligence than to think they actually believe they are the ones not holding the country hostage. What is it you think they are offering in their supposed "negotiations" other than releasing one hostage at a time while shrinking their list of demands? Think they'll go for the renaming of a boat ramp in Wyoming or cage in the National Zoo? (http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=273328)
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    if you are a lib you see it rows way if not you see queenie's way

    sounds like everything else going on-we are an ideologically divided Nation and I do not see that going away anytime soon-just getting worse-for me this about the survival of our Constitution
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    Yes, he failed by succeeding with diplomacy instead of another boondoggle war. Sheesh.

    The terrorists in the middle east are more sane than right wingers in this country.
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    I guess the real question should be ask if you are going to point the finger at the Repubs, what are the Dems willing to do for a compromise? It seems we are hearing a lot about the Repubs not willing to compromise, but what are the Dems willing to give up? Doesn't a compromise mean some sacrifices on both sides?
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    nc1- the ONLY way a dem compromises is for pubs to come their way
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    1 Democrats didn't create the current hostage situation and don't have any demands. If republicans think this is a negotiation instead of hostage taking, what are they offering other than releasing the hostage.

    2 Democrats accepted the republican number in the continuing resolution.
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    Waiting until after the coming election and winning the senate could have made Obama veto the bill and be blamed in total.

    Putting this nation into default will crush our economy and stupid at best.

    Leave it to the TP fools for putting the nation at risk for not having the patience to get
    what they want without hurting the economy.

    Choosing suicide for the nation over any subject is treason imo...

    Obama cant run again and all it would have taken is patience tk change things.
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    This is the part that makes it hard for non-partisans to accept that it is the Republicans who are willing to negotiate an the Democrats who are digging in their heels.

    The Democrats have already compromised, what are the Republicans willing to compromise on?
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    Hopefully you are correct on the reasoning of non-partisans, that is for those who look deep enough into the facts of the matter. Too often "non-partisans" don't, and issue the lazy "they all do it and a pox on them all" statement. "Independents" are often the lowest informed of all voters who pay no attention except to exercise a lazy cynicism. The smart ones are able to look at the facts past party spin, no matter which side it comes from.
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    I don't get it, what is the issue with this recording?
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    The issue is the willing gullibilty of some republicans to actually believe the 1984 yarn that their leadership is spinning.
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    You betray your own frustration by characterizing it as a hostage situation, with the GOP as the hostage holders.

    From our vantage point, it's the dummy-rats who are 'taking/holding hostages'.

    The H/R offered to fund everything BUT Obamacare. For one year.

    Why the F. not, when Walmart, Mickey D's, et. al., were exempt for a year?!?!?

    WTF?!?!? Are they royalty, and we, just humble f'n peons????

    That wasn't enough for Barry and the dummy-rats.

    Instead, they whine and cry foul...all the while acting as if when the passed this thing, they did so diplomatically.

    Nope. FU politics to get it in. FU politics from here on out.

    We haven't forgotten.

    We won't forget.

    Aren't y'all fun with this? I thought this was how y'all liked it?

    :grin:
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    My my with the dramatics...

    :grin:
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    Oh, damn, you're smarter than me. I certainly wasn't able to pick up that between the lines meaning.
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    Take it to the voting booth were you just lost 10 months ago.

    BTW, despite my frustration with this disruption of services, dent on the economy, and attempts at overturning election results, I am experiencing schadenfrude deja vu all over again at your party's predicament.

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