McCain comes out of the closet

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    No surprise... about time he came clean..

    John McCain to host Hillary Clinton in Sedona, Ariz.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ccain-to-host-hillary-clinton-in-sedona-ariz/

    Since leaving the State Department last year, Hillary Rodham Clinton has racked up scores of accolades and appeared on many a big stage. Still, it might come as a surprise that a past Republican presidential nominee -- specifically, the one who is among the loudest critics of Clinton's handling of the Benghazi terrorist attacks -- would invite her to his desert retreat for a lofty conversation about leadership values.

    This is precisely what Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has done.
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    We all know that clown is a RINO/liberal who wants to keep the status quo viable in politics.
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    Gosh forbid someone actually have a talk with someone from other side of the aisle! They should be tried for treason and strung up by tea bags for all true people on the right to see!!!

    Of course, just don't tell anyone on the right that Reagan became great friends with (D) Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill and the two often lunch together. But then Reagan was pragmatic and understood to get what he wanted, he often needed to at least listen to the other side and possibly give up something in compromise.
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    This is more about McCain's liberal/hawkish track record. He and Hildabeast are on the same exact page when it comes to politics and policies.
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    Are you really that naive to think that's what's happening here? This is American politics, you know? If McCain wanted to talk shop with Hilary on a serious level, he'd do it privately.
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    Maybe McCain is hedging his bet on the elections and knows the Tea Party candidate might beat him in the upcoming elections? And he wants a cabinet position from Hildabeast if she wins..
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    I don't think McCain's in any danger of losing his seat.
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    McCain is in no danger of losing his seat if he decides to run again. While Arizona is a red state, it's not Utah. Romney won the state 55-45, and that's with Obama spending zero time and money in Arizona. Had Obama focused on the state, some experts said he may have been able to steal Arizona. But pundits believed his time/money was better spend on Ohio (which was proven correct).

    McCain was also a guest of the Clintons in Arizona a few months ago for a summit on higher education. Apparently, despite political differences, the Clintons and McCains like each other! I know, shocking.

    I also think McCain, who was around during the Reagan era, is not a big fan of the black/white with us or against us mentality that currently dominates Washington. And if appearing on stage with Hillary can show two reasonable people can disagree but still be respectful, perhaps that can spark a change back to a more compromising Washington. The posts on this thread, however, would prove McCain to be wrong, unfortunately.
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    Higher education and how to better fund it is all about politics.

    And please don't deflect... this thread is not about "black/white" - race issues. It's about the RINO that needs to retire before he goes full on Liberal.
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    Mccain is too much of a problem-solver and not enough of an ideologue, usually it's just the opposite with politicians, but in his case - it's always been my problem with him. He has zero vision.

    He's one of those guys that has no idealized visions for our political spectrum, it's simply, "this is the way it is and I'll do what I can," which is great sometimes
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    McCain has always been erratic but it's much more pronounced. Take for example his unhinged attack on John Kerry a supposed friend.

    I think like Ronny Ray Gun exhibited at his political end, that he is suffering from dementia.
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    I can buy this. Reagan was a visionary with a huge pragmatic side. McCain has the pragmatic side, but lacks a distinct vision for the future and can't paint a picture/community like Reagan could. Still, there needs to be room for pragmatics in Washington. Too many ideologues and nothing will ever get done but blaming the other side for everything.
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    It also helps to know what their "distinct vision" for America is before we elect them in the future.
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    Absolutely agree, from both sides too. I mean, I wouldn't hate a Democrat President who was at least pragmatic, and I think Clinton could be at times.
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    I think it accounts for his desire of attention.
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    I did not vote for McCain in the election in 2008 because he is dem lite in my opinion
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    well since he has been dead for a long long time I highly doubt he cares
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    Ideally, they'd all talk to each other on a regular basis. It's a shame that some of you consider that treason.
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    treason is a bit far fetched

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