Matt Jones out indefinitely

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    This, Kelvin sounds more like Emmitt than his dad.

    Until his senior year Fred Taylor was pure talent (size plus speed) with little technique or natural instinct.

    If you can force yourself, think back to the Choke in the Doke in '94(?), Fred was a true freshman and he got stopped several times late in the game to allow FSU to come back. It wasn't solely his fault of course, but he exhibited little instinct for running the ball and getting first downs, he was just 220 lbs and could run a 4.45.

    he would fall backward into the hole, he would not see holes, he didn't see cutback lanes yet, it took Fred Taylor several years to learn how to run more instinctively.

    It was sweet revenge when he had the monster game he had as a senior to beat then #1 FSU in 1997.
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    KT reminds me of Mark Ingram. I don't know that he is going to wow anybody with his runs, but he'll wear down a defense.
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    Fred did not learn good lateral movement until his last season with the gators. Kelvin sees holes very well and squeezes through them very nicely given his lack of college experience. He does remind me of Emmitt as a Freshman.
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    Kelvin has more finesse than Ingram
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    My recollection is the opposite. Fred tried to run through people too often instead of using his lateral quickness. He found that during his last season with Gators and quickly turned into a first round pick! Kelvin is coming in far more polished.
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    Emmitt ran 4.6! It's all about vision, finding holes, letting plays develop, composure and balance!
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    Short of Harvin and Tebow, need we say more?
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    This could be the most dominating running game we've had since 1984. I suspect the passing game will be greatly improved this year too!
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    C'mon. We don't have a back with more than 300 yards. Sure it looks good now. Always does before SEC schedule starts.

    I will believe we have a solid run game when I see it. I don't think we will have anywhere near some of our great run games of the past .... this year.
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    JFF? Are you talking about Johnny Writers Cramp?
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    Yes and no. I totally agree that it is hard to definitively say we are going to be a great running team. I'm sure Matt Jones will be a good player for us and the freshmen are promising. But as you stated, it's not like Jones did anything amazing last year. In fact for the vast majority of the season he did not do a whole lot. In short, anyone who thinks we are going to have a strong running game is making a projection on very little empirical evidence.

    That being said, I do think that in Jones, Brown, Lane and Taylor we will find one or two very good backs for this season. With what I think will be an improved and deeper OL and WM's commitment to run the ball, it would be almost surprising if we don't produce a 1,000 yard back. Or two backs whose totals add up to nearly 1,500 yards. If that is the case, that would be pretty good.
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    Unless they won the 2006 NC by themselves, yes, we should say more.
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    Tebow and Harvin were not "basically meyer's offense" in 2006.
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    Caldwell baker too
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    Yeah that's the point. The "stars" that won a championship were largely there the year prior.
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    The straw that stirred the drink was harvin
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    I think that's rather myopic. He was an important cog, as important as Wynn, Baker or Leak. Without any of them we aren't winning squat.
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    The improvement from '05 to '06 was the result of adding in new players (Harvin, Tebow), getting returning players healthy (everyone remembers Caldwell tore his ACL in the '05 UT game, but Baker spent most of that year battling a number of injuries, including a freaking collapsed lung, and Cornelius had a severely sprained ankle for most of the season), improvement from important elements (the '06 offensive line wasn't great, but it was a thousand times better than the calamity that was 2005; Ingram) and the coaching staff making important adjustments after a rocky first year.

    It's way too simplistic to just say, "Harvin+Tebow=better offense."
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    Caldwell had a broken fibula if I remember correctly on a kickoff return if I remember correctly.

    You make a good point one way but the other is that Harvin was out with typical Harvin injuries for long stretches of that season, he did less than you think outside of that SEC Championship. The '05 pieces of the '06 puzzle really did carry their own weight, the glut of injuries you mention during '05 and they still finished magnitudes better than our offense last year speaks to that.

    They also beat Auburn, still ticked about that "loss" in '06.
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    Yep, broken leg, not a torn ACL. We've had enough guys tear ACLs over the last several years that I tend to remember every season-ending injury as a torn knee ligament.

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