Last I checked, you don't know who I listen to, I didn't insult anyone and I used facts. So I'm pretty sure you don't mean me. "Usual talking points"-um, what? That everyone SHOULD have some kind of ID? If cost isn't the issue, & transportation isn't an issue (we have a dmv at a mall here even), & not being a driver isn't an issue, & if it's issued with the ebt cards it becomes easier to get an ID, then what is the issue? Why the objection to proving who you are?