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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by UFreak, Sep 26, 2013.
Well it ain't a strong suit, much long your arguing capabilities.
Percy was amazing. There is no doubting that. However, he wasn't our only weapon. Wynn, Murphy, Hernandez, Demps, Rainey, Tebow, all played huge roles as skill players from 2006-2008. Tebow himself amassed quite a few yards.
Year........Tebow yards (TDs)......Harvin yards (TDs)
2006..............469 (8).....................855 (5)
2007..............895 (23)...................1622 (10)
2008..............673 (12)...................1304 (17)
Percy clearly has the advantage at output here, but this ignores that Tebow was also a record setting QB. After Percy left, our team fell to 13-1, losing to Alabama. After Tebow left, our team fell to 8-5, losing to Mississippi State. Tebow had tremendous value, and it doesn't take anything away from Harvin to say so.
1. Percy was excellent in every game he played. Unfortunately, he didn't play in every game. Especially, in '06. But, he did manage to get healthy in time to dominate in Atlanta that year.
2. Losing Marcus and Scoop was a huge blow in '06. I remember this board in meltdown mode when it was reported that he wasn't on the team bus. Most wrote that season off. While our D-line is remembered as dominant. It was a battle the entire season, and people didn't trust Ray Ray and Steve Harris to bring it home.
3. Overall, this year's defense is more talented and deeper on paper. But, you have to prove it on the field. The '06 D proved it by standing up at every important moment all season. This year's unit is good enough talent wise to take us all the way, but they still have to prove it.
No, this is no fish story. You'd have had to have seen it to believe it.
We're not talking NFL viability. We are talking about college accomplishments and relative value.
Obviously the QB position is the most important position on a team. I don't think there's any debate about that.
IIRC, the only thing that changed between 2008 and 2009 was Harvin leaving and Addazio taking over. Compare the two years and virtually every category outside kicking goes to the 2008 offense. 2009 scored almost 8 points per game less, less yards per rush, passer rating down, third and fourth down conversions lower, drastically lower scoring rate in the red zone, and when the offense did make it to the end zone it scored TDs far less often (50 vs 29). All this despite having a better defense in 2009 than 2008.
2010 was obviously even worse with the loss of Tebow, AHern, Cooper, Pouncey, Nelson, etc.
lol , the 2006 team was deeper and better on defense .... the offense goes without saying cmon
Doesn't it seem like UF has had more than their share of season ending injuries. I remember a couple of years ago about 5-6 players having ACL's in the 1st few weeks of the season. And another player no one has mentioned yet is Cornelious Ingram. He would have a very dominant senior year in the SEC . Some players/teams are injury prone. Maybe there is something to the shape of the practice field.
Better, that remains open since the season isn't finished.
Deeper? Im not so sure. The CB position was pretty thin on the 06 team, what made them seem good was our front 7. I think DL is equal, 06 team had better safeties and maybe LB. But we are really deep team this year. You may get away with saying the 06 teams #1 unit was better at LB and Safety while '13 team is better at CB and probably equal (before Easely injury) with the 06 team on the DL. As far as depth, I think this team may be deeper though.
I still think what Timmy T accomplished here at UF makes him the best. From the first true underclassman to win the heisman, breaking the mold for other underclassman, to the "The Speech". Being a main component of 2 SEC/National championships and 3 BCS bowls. Rewrote the record books over and over. Broke Herschell Walkers TD record(Against UGA!) AS A QB. Mans a walking legend. The greatest gator ever. Because of his failure in the pros people forget just how good he was in college. HE MAKES EVERYONE BETTER.
I can go along with this. I think Percy was the most gifted and possibly could have been awarded as such if it weren't for his injuries.. But as far as the greatest Gator, its Timmy all the way. Best college QB (possibly player) to ever play the game.
Are we back to believing Bianchi? That tool would predict that St. Mary's School for Girls would beat us if he thought he could piss off Gator fans. Losing Easely is a much bigger hit than Thomas was. However, we do have a ton of talent on defense to take up the slack!
According to the Sun, Caleb Brantley will be available to provide depth at DT. Is this true or mistaken journalism?
i really like our D this year ... what i saw in 2006 was better ... but we look good so far on defense this year ..
Tim was a backup in 2006. He was a main component in 2007-2008. He was THE component in 2009...