Malaysia Flight 370

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    From what I've seen, the most damning thing against the fire theory is that there was some apparent navigation after the pilots were theoretically incapacitated.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_t...ellow_s_theory_about_a_fire_and_langkawi.html
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    I dont think fire can be ruled out but that is what part of my point was with aviate, navigate, communicate...
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    If the fire was so catastrophic they could not communicate then I think the plane would have been found by now...
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    Well the report over the weekend was both the transponder and ACARS system was disabled before the last transmission.

    The timeline now is:

    1:07 a.m.: The onboard Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS, sends out what turns out to be its last communication.

    (Source: CEO of Malaysia Airlines, Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, in Monday’s news conference, clarifying that ACARS did not necessarily shut down at that time.)

    1:19 a.m.: Someone inside the cockpit, believed to be the co-pilot, makes the plane's last verbal communication with air traffic controllers, saying, "All right, good night." Those were the last words from Flight 370.

    (Source: Yahya at Monday’s news conference, confirming that it was the co-pilot who spoke; he also reconfirmed the time.)

    1:21 a.m.: The transponder -- which communicates the altitude, coordinates and aircraft call sign -- stops responding.

    (Source: Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director of the Malaysian Dept. of Civil Aviation, at news conference on March 12.)

    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/03/18/malayisa-airlines-timeline-flight-370
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    I also heard that the turn started before the final voice communication...
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    Some have suggested the unusual co-pilot sign off might have been some attempt to communicate that something was wrong without coming out and saying it - perhaps due to either the pilot or someone from the outside hijacking the plane.

    If the cockpit fire and subsequent turn to land at the nearest airport is true then there is no way they were on auto pilot. Thus, an immediate crash would have happened if the pilots were overcome with smoke and/or fire. I still think there would have been some sort of transmission had fire or similar been a problem unless there was some catastrophic failure which seems unlikely given other systems were working.

    Very, very intriguing situation.
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    I've had that thought, but it seems unlikely that someone wouldn't have connected those dots already. (Assuming info isn't being withheld)

    The Maldives eyewitness thing is fascinating.
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    Is it just me or would we not have checked out all these potential runways it could have landed on?
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    Supposedly the pilot's at-home flight simulator had evidence that he had been practicing approaches and landings at both the Maldives and Diego Garcia.

    Civilian aircraft don't go to Diego Garcia. Not if they know what is good for them.

    The Maldives would be right down the middle of the strike zone as far as a locale for taking the plane for use in the Middle East. A landing there would mean an easy milk run to whateverstan ... and whatever destination lies next.

    Make no mistake. This is a Big Deal.
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    Lol... I agree. But, is that you Joe Biden?
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    I'm not seeing this. If so, wow. Given Maldives witnesses this is huge.
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    AP saying two pieces of plane found in middle of Indian Ocean.

    Australian source
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    Pieces seen by satellites. Aussie plane en route.
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    3:41 P.M. Friday local time in Canberra, Australia.

    Right now FNC is showing live, statements being made by the PM 0f Australia. Evidently their satellites are showing imagery of what looks like could be damage of the aircraft.
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    One possibility is that an attempt to steal the plane by one of the pilots went wrong. Maybe they entered the information into the system for a course change, and then started the process of de-pressurizing the plane, and their own oxygen system failed to work, rendering them unconscious. Then the plane continued flying on autopilot on the programmed path until it ran out of fuel. Maybe one pilot decided to steal the plane, and programmed the new course heading into the system, and then got into a fight with the other pilot, and somehow both were incapacitated.
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    If the plane had landed safely somewhere and our government had figured out where is was, that info would be kept confidential while they tried to mount a rescue. In fact, they'd continue the search as a deflection.
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    This is a very good point.

    You never let the bad guys know you are "on to them".

    Problem is that there are OTHER reasons to pursue a misdirection strategy, that are not so benign as this.

    I am putting this "sighting" of "wreckage" in the same category for now as the Chinese report of debris off the Vietnam coast. There is NO plausible reason to hijack a plane to take it down there.

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