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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Oct 12, 2013.
Just wonderful and amazing.... with Jon Stewart:
Whereas many talk about bravery this young lady lives it.
Taliban came out last week and said they still want to kill her.
this girl deserved this prize more than lots of people who've won it. and i'm including the president in that. this girl epitomizes courage
We support those who resist sharia in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and we kill their al- Qaeda sharia-loving eoemies. But in Libya we armed and trained sharia-loving al-Qaeda, and we engaged in the "humanitarian bombing" of those who resisted sharia. A sharia-resister who was fleeing NATO's bombing of Qaddafi's home town of Sirte cried, "We thought you'd be dropping apricots!" Sirte death toll: 350 to 2500, from what I've read in the foreign press. As for Malala, she's a very brave young woman.
Shame on the Nobel committee!
I was almost in tears when I first saw that interview. She's like Ghandi.
This girl has looked death in the face and told it and the religion of peace to piss off. I love it.
she's a Muslim
Thus the existential crisis of the age -- she, as a Muslim, has no religious authority or orthodoxy to which she could appeal that would support the very Classical Liberal/westernized values she has. All such authority she could find vocal access to, breaks in favor of her assailants.
But in the West, the culture is degrading to the point where it has lost any moral language or backbone to condemn the authority/orthodoxy that is pro-shooting-her-in-the-head. Yet people wonder why we never hear the voice of moderate Muslims.
I heard she said in her speech how she plans to return to Pakistan. I hope she realizes she probably won't live through whatever day that is.
They're out there. If you've never heard them, it's more a matter of your choice
The choice to...? Go out and look for them! Ding ding ding! Thanks for unequivocally demonstrating my point. They are there if you will look under the rocks and behind the trees, and when you find them, you find the least recognized and least effectual voices in Muslim society... people with the same problem, that they can't back up a reform argument or even a pluralist argument with any sort of religious authority.
Goodness... if you make the choice to look. Moderate muslim leaders are, then, like that great local sandwich shop that you have to look for. But Subway finds you, you see a sign or a TV ad. That is fundamentalist, jihadist, shoot-Malala-in-the-head Islam, the kind that actually gets its message out.
Maybe if Western multi-cultis wouldn't homogenize Islam and insist that tolerance requires they treat that "power brand" of Islam as a legitimate culture worthy to respect, maybe the moderates/reformists would be emboldened. But we don't -- the liberal intelligentsia sees no difference between respecting Malala's message and respecting al Masry's.
Written on a thread about an interview with a moderate muslim?
I suppose you could look under rocks, or you could look:
in the Washington Post
Detroit Free Press
you just have to open your eyes
That's who came to my mind, too. Amazing young woman.
Whether its willful blindness or willful ignorance, I am not sure, but this apparent, dogged insistence that moderate Muslims are even an order of magnitude as visible or influential as their radical counterparts, cannot be supported by any rational evaluation of the facts of the modern world.
No apparent sense of irony when you point put that hearing from a moderate Muslim in public on these issues is, in and of itself, a newsworthy event.
When the next firebreathing imam or bin Laden poser makes a hatefilled speech and that is a newsworthy event, we might be getting somewhere. All you have done is point out the difference between man biting dog and dog biting man.
She actually reminded me of Bhutto, i.e. someone who will eventually be murdered for her reformist thinking. It is very tragic to think, and I hope she doesn't ever indulge that hope to go back.
So you claim it hasn't happened. Then when it's obviously there have been plenty of examples ... it you complain that it's newsworthy.
Can't make this stuff up folks.