M Tennis vs TAMU

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    Very important match....both teams are in that 8-16 range and could be important when host schools are selected.

    Looks like UF lost the doubles point, but can't find scores.

    UF came out and won the first set on 5 of 6 courts, only losing in a tiebreak on court 5 (Lippman)

    But it looks like TAMU may flip things in the second set as only Lippman is leading at the moment. Most are tight except on court 1 where Newman is getting steamrolled. TAMU player is much much better but lost the first set solely because of unforced errors. Newman just pushing the ball back and hoping the guy hits it out. Not much chance he wins
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    Newman loses second set 6-0
    Watson loses second set 6=2
    Hidalgo loses second set 7-6
    Diep 6-6 in second
    Lippman up 5-2 in second
    Orkin 6-6 in second

    Watson and Newman will likely lose....have to win the bottom 4 spots
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    Diep bagels his guy in the tiebreak to get UF on the board
    Lippman also closes out his second set

    Newman and Watson quickly down a break in the third...don't have much hope for them
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    Newman really fighting hard, but he has nowhere near the game his opponent does
    Watson now down another break...will be done soon
    Hidalgo match is dead even....very very tight
    Lippman with a quick break
    Orkin is the match I felt best about but he is gagging it away a little, quickly down 2-0. His fade may be the death knell
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    No hope on the first 2 courts
    Hidalgo up 2-1
    Lippman up 2-0
    Orkin losing every key point, down 2-0
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    Hidalgo goes up 3-2...these guys are mirrors of each other
    Lippman in control at 4-1
    Orkin has about 8 game point chances to get back on serve and can't capitalize, now down 3-0
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    Lippman closes his out 6-1, nice showing for the freshman
    Watson loses 6-1 and Newman down 5-2

    Hidalgo at 3-3
    Orkin finally gets a game, 3-1 now. But he is playing VERY tight
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    Hidalgo gets broken, he is in trouble now
    Orkin gets a quick break and he is now back on serve
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    Orkin roaring back makes it 3-3
    Hidalgo has multiple break points but loses game to go down 3-5 in the third
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    Hidalgo loses his serve at love, loses his last 4 games, his match and the team match....he didn't show much down the stretch. Played tentative and defensive

    UF drops to 5-5 ,0-1 in SEC

    No idea why Piro isn't playing singles...needed badly
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    Number six singles was Mike Alford. The Aggies site had it wrong.
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    Thanks Coach...video was pretty fuzzy. Did Newman retire? Looks like his match stopped at 5-2, when I went to the video court was cleared.
    Like what I see from Lippman.
    Confused by the absence of Piro
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    Newman did not retire, the final score was just not posted. Team played hard, very hard, which makes it even tougher to not come away with a victory. Singles lineup is determined by which players have earned a singles slot. That can change from match to match, but Friday's lineup against Texas A & M was the best one Florida could put on the court.
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    Thanks...he must have lost the last game quickly. Newman really battled, ran a lot of balls down...but the TAMU guy totally dictated the match and only lost points on unforced errors.
    Hidalgo match was similar at the end, but that was after Hidalgo seemed to really tighten up.

    This team has to win the doubles point in these type of matches. Really expected this deep group to threaten to finally break into that top 8 national level but instead they are now looking like they could drop out of the top 16 range where the program has been stuck for a while. I would imaging they rebound back into the top 16 but not much higher. Until a legit #1 and #2 player is found probably can't get into the elite.
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    The last national ranking release was the first of the year that used the computer program for tennis ranking and not opinions. The first computer ranking for tennis comes out right after the national team indoors. So that is a reason why Florida dropped from 13 to 22. Georgia dropped from 4 to 35! But as Georgia gets its whole squad healthy and wins matches, that Gator win over the Dogs at the Indoors will have more and more significance. So don't put too much stock in where we are ranked right now. The first computer ranking goes only on your BEST win so far for the year and increases by one to TWO best wins with next Tuesdays computer ranking and then THREE best wins and so forth until it gets to eight I think.
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    Yeah, I don't even look at formal rankings at present...just trends and results. UF women were ranked ahead of Stanford but are way behind the Cardinal in talent this season.

    I have just seen UF as a perennial 8-16 national team...able to beat a top team here and there, but just as likely to lose to a lesser team. A good year has been making it to the round of 8 and getting hammered there. Make no mistake, that is still pretty good...but was hoping this team would edge into that 4-8 range this season due to depth. My thinking was UF could still lose at the 1 and 2 spots but should be able to pull off 3 wins at 3-6 against everyone except the very elite teams. That really hasn't happened yet. Diep's struggles (TAMU match was a great positive), Hidalgo being spotty, and Piro being MIA have hurt. Big question becomes is Piro not playing because of health issues or something else, and will he return...because he is clearly a top 3-4 if not better for UF. And that would strengthen each position below him.
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    The main reason for a coaching change two years ago was that very fact. The track record was good, but not good enough, for a multitude of reasons. The rebuilding process was made a bit easier by the remaining talent within the program. However in year two of the Shelton regime, the process of turning this men's tennis program from a perennial 8-16 team, into a top eight program is going to take a bit longer. I do believe there is enough talent on this years team to have a solid season. IF the players continue to compete as hard as they did in College Station, against a Texas A & M squad that is extremely tough at home. At present, the health of the entire squad is fine. There have been some players who have emerged as extremely reliable and trustworthy during match play. There have also been some disappointments thus far. However with the depth this team has, the key detail of gaining playing time during the upcoming SEC match schedule is effort and attitude. The players you see in the lineup will have exhibited that day in and day out both on the practice court AND during matches. Coach Shelton has a five year plan that has been implemented and is taking hold in the locker room and on the court.
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    Yeah, I liked Coach Jackson a lot, but got no sense they were getting closer to "elite". I know last season you alluded to the transition and guys "buying in" for lack of a better term. Sounds like still going thru some of that.
    I like the additions of Lippman and Orkin, and the guys slated to come in next year look solid, but not top of the ladder guys either. That's probably my biggest surprise...that there hasn't been a bigger recruiting impact in the big time elite guys. Seems like Coach Shelton had that at GT and elevated that program very quickly. The mens game may be more difficult to impact though.
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    Recruiting is an ever ongoing process. I do not in any way feel we are finished with recruiting for next fall. Of course there can be no names put out there. But there is another signing period in April, and we will see if that player or two, that is necessary at the top of the lineup, becomes reality then. Keep the faith!
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    When a new coach comes into a program, in any sport, there is an adjustment period by the players who have worked under the two different coaches. During that time, there are decisions every player needs to make. If they buy into the current staff, and are totally in, then things can be smooth. If not everyone has bought in, then there can be some rough spots. Coach Shelton, as do most successful coaches, has his way of doing things. Responsibility on the practice court and in training in general, is one of the corner stones of what he is currently instituting. Progress is being made, and this team will be heard from this year and in the future. But we all know recruiting is the lifeblood, and progress there is absolutely necessary to compete with the top teams in the nation.

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