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Loving what hearing about Roper and the O...but

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by newmanium, Aug 10, 2014.

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    There's one ABSOLUTE thing Muschamp HAS to change this season, and for good, or I'm afraid he's doomed. And that is a go for the opponents throat from the kickoff, don't stop till the final whistle and try and score as much as possible against any team we play. It's great and all to have an OC with a no huddle up tempo O who likes to throw it around but in NO WAY can WM stay in the same mentality of let's get 2 TDs and put it on defense. Killer Instinct at all times. It not only breeds confidence in the O but reassures the D it's all for one and they're not going to always carry the weight and burden of having to save the day every game. IMHO this will be a HUGE key to having turnaround type season we hope for and all know we are capable of.
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    It will be interesting to see how some fans react to the tempo Roper actaully runs. Muschamp said it will be situational. If it is the 1st or 2nd quater he is going to try and score as many points as possible, If he is in the 4th quarter up two TD's he is going to play situational football. I don't believe he is doomed if he plays smart football.

    I dont think he really has to change his thinking at all. Muschamp did what he had to do for us to win games in 2012. We try to outscore people in 2012 we would have not been as successful. This team is better equipped to score points there is actually talent at the WR position and hopefully we can pass protect. This defense is also not as talented as the 2012 team in the front 7 so we will have to score more.

    I dont think you can take much from the offense last season.
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    Driskel in the gun, that's all I care I about! Lol
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    Not to worry.
    When questioned about his new offensive philosophy for this year's team, Coach Muschamp's response was short and sweet.
    "Score lots of points."
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    This is the first year we've had a good roster on offense unde Muschamp. That by itself will help us score a lot more points. Add in an up tempo offense that fits our QB better, and we should definitely put more points on the board.

    That said, when you have a three score lead and a strong defense, you don't run plays that are liable to result in turn overs. You run the clock out and take your W. That's smart football.
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    In SOS's hay day, we scored points early and ran the clock late. I don't know many coaches that don't try and run some clock when sitting on a good lead. You do what you have to do to win games.
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    Oh no, DOOOOOOOOMED!
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    Opinions will be pointless until the OLines performance in TuskaLOSEa.
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    Lol people really think muschamp only wanted to score 2 tds.

    Ball control and scoring are not mutually exclusive. He wanted ball control AND to score points. We were capable of one. The other not so much.

    Im glad we have roper but it sounds like if we just had the talent we seem to have going into this year in his first 3 years we would have controlled the clock AND put up points
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    I agree but it's always felt like Muschamp "hoped" to score early and started trying to run clock out, regardless of score, after first 5 min of 1st qtr.

    There's smart football to control a lead and then there's timid play not to lose football the whole stadium can smell from miles away. Don't get me wrong you can win that way, but it can't be consistent because it's a weakness a good coach can take great advantage of.
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    He did what you say because he Had to play to his strengths which was a stifling defense and relatively inept offensive talent and depth
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    For 3 seasons? Doesn't that seem more like a trend than a temp fix? Plus we've played many teams in that time our 3rd string could out-talent/strength but have you ever seen him try and lay it on them from the jump? I'm not talking about simply running it up, I'm talking about a mentality that we are gonna dominate this team in EVERY phase from whistle to whistle which IMO you should have the mindset to do regardless of what you think your teams limitations are. Not only does it breed confidence and a winning mentality but when you're playing the lesser teams it gives your roster a chance to develop in live action so you're not terrified to let your backup QB attempt more than 3 passes in a game for fear of failure even though you've already lost 6 straight. I mean who knows he's not capable because he, or other players, were never given enough opportunity to learn or show they are. Just my honest opinion.
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    Well... you could look at games in 2012 like Louisville and uga or 2011 vs Bama where we came out throwing the ball in an aggressive fashion.

    I just don't think we were capable of winning games playing like that. It's nice to have a 'were going to dominate' mentality, but the coach still needs to be pragmatic and do what what is necessary to try to win games.
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    It would be a trend if we had a loaded roster and he did it but instead we had a starting qb go down (shortly after throwing a td bomb to start the game mind you) which left two true freshmen who had no business being on the field his first year. If cam stayed that year would have been different. We made the attempt we didn't have the horses.

    We tried twice to open it up in 11 and lost both games because our line couldn't pass block.

    Last year was what it was, a sive for an oline and a 3rd and 4th string qb neither with much arm strength. I wanted to at least try to open it up last year as well but it became painfully obvious at some point that they simply were inept. At some point last year became about damage control and even that was tough
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    And SOS learned his lesson on taking his foot off the peddle. Choke at Doak anyone? There were a few others like Kentucky and Tennessee that come to mind but that game alone taught him a lesson that you never take your foot off. If the guy is down, you kick him harder.
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    The Choke at Doak, 31-3 at the end of the third quarter. FSU scoring 4 td's in the final quarter was more about the defense playing prevent than the offense. You give SOS a 31-3 lead going into the fourth quarter today and he will still run the ball to eat clock.
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    This is exactly right.

    We have a much better roster this year, and the scheme fits JD better. We'll be better on offense.
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    Exactly, this is what Adam the sledgehammer lane is for..
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    You had to bring up how three and outzen shred our d for 28 unanswered!!!
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    Not really. After being up 31-10 in the 4th quarter:

    1st Down: Rush for 1
    2d Down: Rush for 1
    3d Down: Pass incomplete
    4th Down: Punt

    Up 31-17. (10:16 remaining)

    1st Down: Rush for loss of 3
    2d Down: Deep pass up the middle overthrown
    3d Down: Sacked trying to pass, then run outside
    4th Down: Punt

    Up 31-24 (5:34 remaining)

    1st Down: Rush for 5 yards
    2d Down: Pass intercepted (three Noles closest to the ball)

    Tied 31-31 (1:45 remaining)

    1st Down: Pass complete for 4 yards
    2d Down: Rush for 2 yards
    3d Down: Pass complete for 1 yard
    4th Down: Punt

    Everyone want to blame Bobby Pruett for the Choke, but the fact is that FSU had most of their plays in the 4th quarter against us inside our 30 yard line, so it wasn't all "prevent."

    Plenty of blame to go around -- especially our play-calling.

    These days, Spurrier starts eating the clock in the 1st quarter.
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