Looks like it won't be Michael Sam...

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    When Mizzou DE Michael Sam came out of the closet before the NFL Draft, he was anticipated to be the first openly gay athlete to be signed by a team in a major American team sport. It looks like the New Jersey Brooklyn Nets have preempted that by signing Jason Collins, who some may remember, publicly announced he was gay in an SI issue after completing his contract.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-...lins-nba-first-openly-gay-172051031--nba.html
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    One small correction, it's the Brooklyn Nets ;)
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    Yes, we remember the earlier celebration.
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    And it won't be the NFL. How convenient for Roger Goodell, a guy who's not exactly known for standing on the tracks till the train hits him.
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    Best of luck to Mr. Sam in his endeavors. Is it me or do others find the knowing of other people's sexual behavior of low interest? I thought the LGTB community wanted to be treated like everyone else? The LAST thing I would want to know about someone is their sexual behavior....why; then, if the goal is "to be treated like others" is this the first thing I learn of someone? When we elect the President do we ask sexual questions: how often, what positions, toys or no, etc.? Why not? Do most folks ask these questions in conversations at a typical community gathering or social event?

    Is this a glimpse of the future:
    "Hi, Bill, I'd like you to meet my wife, Sara - we swing, but only with folks who've been medically cleared. She likes to be the aggressor and always has plenty of C-batteries on her possession. She did the college experimentation thing but has stayed straight since she was 24."
    "Hello, Sara - pleasure to meet you. I've been married to the same woman for 26 years and believe you would find my sexual life quite boring; but, in the spirit of inclusion, I'd be happy to tell you some of the more interesting things... why don't we get ourselves a beer and I can tell you more...?"
    God, I hope not.
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    I can understand LGBH couples want to be able to go out like everyone else and enjoy themselves in public...and if they acted like everyone else I think they would be treated so. Let's be honest, parents of little kids do not want to see a grown couple sucking face in public (McDonalds or Disney world) no matter the sexual orientation of the couple. IF everyone would just show a little restrain, not the need to flaunt, announce and demand attention I think we could all get along.

    But the same goes for straight couples. Mind your own damn business, keep your affection appropriate for the time and place and leave each other alone.
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    So he comes out a few weeks prior and now tells the same press he used to not talk about it. He can't possible thing he an elude a fawning press on this issue of our time.

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    So what exactly do you know of Sam's sexual behavior? I know he's gay, just like I know the President is straight, but past that I'm not aware of the sexual behavior (positions, toys etc.) of either.
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    Collins played tonight.
    The next step will be a known athlete, then a superstar coming out, then the major media coverage will start to end.
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    You're right. I'm sure if Aaron Rodgers got married to his boyfriend, but didn't make a big deal out of it, nobody would care.
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    fast six: I understand that Mr. Sam enjoys sex with men.

    And. .. why should anyone have this info?
    How has it bettered my life? or lives of people in general?

    My point is: where does it end? Usually, people make mistakes on both sides of the channel. In this case, one extreme will want to deny sexual pleasure in any form and simply stick their heads in the sand. The other extreme wants to reveal, showcase, exhibit and flaunt their libido being licentious. I don't want the sublimation of one group nor the exhibition of the other.
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    And do you understand that Tom Brady likes to have sex with women?

    And. .. why should anyone have this info?
    And . .. how do you get that info?
    How has it bettered your life? or lives of people in general?

    Saying that if Sam never told anybody he was gay, nobody would care or notice is ridiculous. He's not telling you any more about his sex life than somebody who introduces their wife or girlfriend to you is telling you about their sex life.
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    Publicity stunt... WTFC.
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    Exactly. Doesn't do anything to better the nets. 0 points 2 rebounds, and 5 fouls in 11 minutes. Awful. All this is is an attention grab. As much as I dislike the way secular public opinion is going with regards to celebrating a sin, I understand its going to happen whether I like it or not....But signing a washed up player to a short contract just so he can get on the court and say he is the first openly gay player is pushing it.
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    Have you ever watched a game? Collins is replacing Reggie Evans, who averaged 13 minutes, 2.6 points, and 5 boards. They traded him last week along with Jason Terry. Lopez is hurt. They tried to get Glenn Davis but he signed with the Clippers. Collins is a perfectly logical choice until they can come up with a long term solution. He's seven feet tall and played in the league 13 years.

    So yeah, attention grab -- that wouldn't have happened had Big Baby had been available.
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    I've read that Gator Country is fast becoming one of America's better known gay sites.
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    FIFY :)
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    fastsix wrote: "Saying that if Sam never told anybody he was gay, nobody would care or notice is ridiculous."

    You're right. Nice strawman.
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    17 reps at the combine. Ouch.
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    Apparently in good company. Clowney had 21. :eek:

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