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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by MastaG8r, Jun 27, 2013.
No warm fuzzies here for the guy no matter where he poses for photo-ops, and no apologies either.
I think Powell could have been an exceptional President and wish he was the guy when 9/11 happened. Although he needed to quit the good soldier role and put his country first on the Iraq invasion.
Anyway, the unfortunate truth is that some very good candidates are scared off by the political climate - they don't want their family to get trashed, and that was reportedly Powell's concern.
There is some academic controversy over Goree's importance WRT the slave trade (but it did actively trade slaves for from the late 1600s to the early 1800s), but most people seem to think its an important monument, or at least has symbolic importance.
Upon hearing the real story behind the "Door to No Return", Obamus Maximus turned to the press photographers and said to take the photos anyway..."those dumb chits who support me wouldn't know any different anyway. Bunch of stupid morons would believe anything I tell them so who gives a rat's arse".
Michelle was repeatedly giving anxious glances to Obamus as her shopping trip was being delayed due to the photo op taking more time than planned. Immediately upon completion of the photos, she was last seen being wisked away in a black limo with a large ice cream cone stuffed in her mouth.
I guess Clinton & Bush forgot to pass "the real story" on to him.
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/01/w...Reference/Times Topics/People/C/Clinton, Bill
BTW, pretty nice speech, worth reading.
I stand by my comments
My doctor is black. I think she's awesome, and I wouldn't think of trading her for another. And, in case you missed it, our President is half-black. Our AG is black. The Secretary of State in the last administration was black. And Oprah makes more money than all of them combined.
Carry on with the lack of equal opportunity rubbish.
I think there were four things that got Obama re-elected (not counting the things that made people not want to vote for Romney), which is an impressive feat considering what a failure he was in his first term.
1) Being black. That gets him 99.5% of the black vote, plus a fair percentage of the "guilty white people" and "people fighting against racism" vote. It also brings black people to the polls in record numbers.
2) Being liberal. That gets him 100% of the hard-core liberal vote.
3) Being backed by the Chicago political machine and the democrat machine. That got a lot of on-the-fence voters to go vote (early and often) for Obama, by spreading lies about Romney and the republicans and by engaging voters, which republicans were unwilling to do.
4) Being backed by the media. When you can get an obvious liberal to moderate a debate and shout down your opponent, you have a clear path to win an election. Having very positive media coverage (gov't scandal? put Michelle's dress on as the lead story!) also doesn't hurt.
When you see all the forces lined up against Romney, and throw in Romney's own mistakes and political immaturity, he was fortunate to come in second...
I think democrats are making a mistake if they think Hillary's "being female" qualification will translate to the same kind of support from both the media and from women in general that Obama got for being black. She is both widely liked and widely hated in the U.S. by both men and women, and she will be swift-boated for her role in Benghazi (and her fainting to dodge questions).
Overall, solid thread
IMO, the photo (realities of the location notwithstanding) would be more powerful if Obama had been involved in the fight for civil rights legislation. IOW, if he had accomplished something other than being born black. The photo is purely symbolic. Contrast that to a photo of Reagan standing in front of Brandenburg Gate giving a speech. That photo would be powerful and historic, because he actually accomplished what he set out to do (and it was significant).
The left frequently credits Obama with solving racism (or slavery, or whatever) just by being elected president. Not true. He was elected president as a result of other people solving racism. The left tends to be illogical, so its no surprise that cause and effect tends to confuse them.
Or if he himself had been a slave. Or if there were live gunfire flying through the frame of the picture. Or if he had 300 lbs of muscle and was holding a wounded damsel. I can think of lots of ways in which almost any picture can be more powerful. :laugh:
It would also be more powerful if there were the slightest possibility he had African-American slaves in his ancestry. Combine the lack thereof with the mythical nature of the door's history, and this picture is meaningless.
I agree with many here. He had my hopes that he'd be great for all Americans, yet, he disappointed me and many others. He's divisive and dismissive, and he thinks he's above the law. But, there was a time when he first got elected that I felt the same was the OP did.
In the end he'll be judged on his actions, or lack there of, and not on the color of his skin.
Nice post, nice moment