Lawmarkers to Probe People being Kicked Out Homes and Bussiness being shut down

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    The first is a great example (non-compliance with the Budget Act, 31 USC s. 1105, although unlike the Anti-Deficiency Act there aren't prescribed penalties for violating the Budget Act). Most of the rest less so. The immigration enforcement question is largely subject to prosecutorial discretion (and to get more technical there would be a question as to the constitutionality of a bill directing the executive provide full enforcement), and the contours of the other two are debatable constitutional questions rather than statutory commands.
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    What BS. Hell it takes 3 months or more to get rid of a bum tenant.
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    Essential has a legal meaning in this case. And no, it is not legally essential. Similar to NIH, which I would certainly consider essential but is not considered legally essential.
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    Where does it say a bum tenant? They have lived there since 1970 . That is 43 years I would suspect it is paid for


    It says they have owned the home since 1970
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    I don't think he meant they were bum tenants, but that if you are a landlord and someone is a bum tenant, not paying their rent, it can take up to 3 months to get them out.
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    The road inside the base that leads only to the Golf Course is essential?

    Seems to me too that roads inside National Parks that are used as the normal course of transit between communities, or for school children exercising their RIGHT to an education might be essential from a legal standpoint also. Right? Might not fire or medical emergency personel attempting to offer some other perceived RIGHT be restricted by the closing of this road in Tennessee?

    Just admit the Obama Administration is doing everything possible to MAXIMIZE any inconvenience to citizens instead of MINIMIZING the same. The petulance and pettiness is obvious to everyone, even you. Do not play some game and pretend otherwise.
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    obama is throwing his sucker in the dirt say what you want this is going to come back to bite the den in the butt
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    wildlife refuges close as hunting season begins in many places ... it's a mess.
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    Most roads don't lead to one thing. I doubt the road at Andrews only leads to that. But yes, all roads on military bases are still likely considered essential.

    And no, this road is likely not going to be considered essential, as it has no military or national security purpose. The lawyers probably know this split better than I, but nothing about this road screams that it is more essential than say admitting new patients to NIH trials.

    Sorry that many can't live without their federal government services. If you are this concerned about the inability of people to function without the federal government, you should probably tell Republicans not to take the shutdown of nonessential services so lightly. Government does many important things. That is why you shouldn't shut it down on a whim.
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    some one used a football team as a example. People expect a football team to win. Some are paying big bucks to win. The team may or may not have the players to win with. Who is held responsible. The coach. In this case obama is going to be held responsible for this mess as he is the coach the head man and when its over he will suffer and all his assistants will go with him Since he is a dem all dem will suffer
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    Don't really care to substantively enter this sub-argument and so will leave it at this, but the assertion that they have a "RIGHT to education" is legally questionable.

    San Antonio ISD v. Rodriguez held that, while education is unquestionably important, it is not a right explicitly protected by the Constitution nor is there a basis for finding that it is implicitly protected.
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    Once again the rep have passed a bill to fund the National parks Svc the NIH and the DC Harry Reid refuses to let it come to a vote because it will pass. The bill passed the House with 23 Dem voting for the bill
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    lets spend even more federal taxpayer money on a probe/investigation......
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    And tomorrow we get pass the bill to fund...whatever section of government you want next.

    The House is refusing to fund all of government, despite the votes in the House to fund the entire government. That bill would also be signed by the President, as is required for a bill from Congress. So if you want government restarted, encourage the House of Representatives to vote on restarting all of government at once, instead of trickling in different appropriations whenever some member of the media attacks the Republicans for not funding something.
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    In other words keep kicking the can down the road do nothing just keep borrowing Its our kids not us that will have to pay for it
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    This is true federally. Some states protect the right to an education. But I am pretty sure that neither states nor the federal government take a position on the right to get to school on a faster (or even safer) road.
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    Perhaps a better question, how many understand that a government shutdown hasn't a thing to do with the debt ceiling?
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