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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by diehardgator1, Oct 7, 2013.
Can you see a 77 and 80 year old couple having to vacate their home in 24 hours?
I almost added they should have to stay at a Motel 6...
Yep so maybe you should support the refunding of the entity that maintains the few safe roads in that area. That is if you care about those 35 or 40 kids.
The votes are there to do it. Just make the Republicans drop their completely arbitrary rule in the House and put the Senate CR up for a vote. Then when it passes (as it will by current head counts), you can say you helped protect all of those cancer patients and the kids on buses in Eastern Tennessee.
I"m all for government downsizing..............until I'm not.
Congress is in charge of spending bills not the senate and they passed a bill to fund the NIH parks and district of columbia Reid refuses to bring it up for a vote because he knows it will pass I might add 23 Dem supported these bills
The House passed three targeted spending bills on Wednesday night, pushing to fund the District of Columbia, the National Institutes of Health and the National Park Service despite the government shutdown.
House Passes Bills To Fund National Parks, DC, NIH
Message on the NPS website on Oct. 3, 2013. nps.gov
Many Republicans have championed the parks funding bill, H.J. Res 70, after national monuments such as the World War II memorial in Washington, D.C., were closed down at midnight on Tuesday. According to The Hill, the bill was passed with a 252-173 vote, supported by 23 Democrats and opposed by one Republican.
"Barricades were put up around the World War II memorial," Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) told the Hill. "Again, a memorial accessible to the public 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. We should not be using our national parks … as hostages for the Democratic 'my way or the highway'
right after Reid allows votes on all the resolutions stacked up on his desk....
how many laws has this administration decided not to enforce???
now they get religion and decide they must enforce this single law to the letter because it supports their cause to inflict the maximum amount of pain possible on the American population? really?
do you really want a list of all the laws that this administration has decided not to enforce? sorry, but don't want to commit the days it would take to type them all out.
"Let's cut the food stamp program."
"Yeah great idea"
"Let's cut the welfare program."
Yeah great idea"
"What about kids that may go hungry?"
"Let's cut down on all of this spending"
"Yeah, another great idea"
"Oh my God that damned commie has closed the parks and thrown old people out of their home by not passing a spending bill."
"Let's impeach his azz."
No lets make some of the freeloaders get a job Stop paying women a $1,000 a month for every child she can have out wedlock 2/3 of them they dont even know who the daddy is that will be a good start
and stop giving tax refunds for more than a person paid in plus every illegal that wants to file a tax return
Liberal Dem no we cant do that we would lose votes
That as absolutely nothing to do with the contradictory stand some like to take around here. It remind me of a team that runs it up the middle every play and when they find that doesn't work they settle for punting. In other words it's a one dimensional approach to things.
So they close this road but keep open the golf course at Andrews Air Force base?
If you want to get technical there is a difference in the latitude allowed to the executive in the enforcement of certain kinds of laws.
Most latitude? Criminal laws. Prosecutorial discretion gives the executive wide latitude in setting enforcement policy and level of enforcement on generally applicable criminal laws.
Least latitude? Substantive law directed at what the executive branch itself can or cannot do.
Ch. 31 of the US Code falls squarely in the latter category. Unless you want the administration to advocate a theory that the Anti-Deficiency Act is unconstitutional and need not be followed until a court confirms its validity (and have a theory on why that would be the case, because there isn't an immediately obvious one given that a law barring the executive from taking actions in the absence of an appropriation for it lines up pretty squarely with Article I powers specifically delegated to Congress) it seems questionable to be howling "how dare you follow specific limitations on executive branch powers!"
how long will their "investigation" take?
obama breaks every law he does not agree with
The Golf Course is not appropriated but is rather paid for by user fees. The maintenance of this road is appropriated by Congress.
The ROADS on the Base are maintained by appropriations and not user fees. Just like the road in Tennessee closed here.
That was too easy.
Military base roads are likely considered essential from a legal standpoint, as are most military base personnel. The road in Tennessee does not likely qualify as essential.
That really was too easy.
like the requirement to submit a budget by a certain date or enforce border security or produce documents requested by Congress or not spy on US citizens without a warrant or make appointments while senate is in session or ???? are any of those substantive laws directed at what the executive branch can or cannot do?
Obviously your depth of understanding is greater than mine but I am sure that if you tried hard enough you could identify more than a handful of laws that fall under the same rules/requirements of the Anti-Deficiency clause
how many cases has this admin already lost where they were doing things not allowed by law yet now they feel that it is mandatory that they toe the line. :no:
this is where the gray lies. who decides what is essential and what is not? funny how the things the admin wants are essential and the things that will cause the greatest amount of inconvenience to those not on his side are considered non-essential.
this is no different from when a local school board is short on funds. they cut PE, music, afterschool care, sports, etc but leave the taj mahal admin buildings and staff unscathed. quit trying to act like it is any different.
Getting school kids home safely is not essential ? Tn is not Fl. some of the mountain roads that these kids will have to use are not safe for mountain goats much less a school bus. I have traveled some of them. Hwy 64 from Franklin to Highlands is about 18 miles but it will take you about 40 minutes to drive it and this is a good road