Latest Government Spy Scandal: World of Warcraft

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    Seriously, people, you can't make this up. NSA Government "spies" were playing World of Warcraft on-line for their job, trying to identify terrorists "hiding in plain sight". No telling how many millions (or billions) of dollars were spent keeping young NSA staffers busy playing computer games.

    http://www.edition.cnn.com/2013/12/09/tech/web/nsa-spying-video-games/index.html?hpt=hp_t4

    Your tax dollars at work...

    If I were president, I would immediately cut the NSA budget in half. It is an embarrassment. I guess they weren't spending $70k on a conference in Vegas or engaging hookers in Columbia, so that's a plus.
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    Yeah, the NSA is absolutely ridiculous, and their actions and the FBI's under the guise of the war on terror has opened the floodgates. Read somewhere the other day that there were millions of local pd requests.
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    SMH - what else can we do
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    I think a lot of folks feel that way, as much as it pains me to write it. I hope folks speak out more.
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    9-/11 scared so many that we easily gave up a lot of our rights to privacy
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    These guys are apparently the worst of the worst and the silence from those in charge of such things, is disturbing.
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    The chipping away at rights has been going on for a long time--and quite frankly, I think this is one area where the left and right are generally in agreement, or at least those on each side who care about such things.

    In any case, this story made me smile. It's not novel but clever nonetheless...though it will never happen:

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    I heard a good interview on NPR yesterday about how much the intelligence agencies hide what they do f rom the administration and Congress. They're not concerned about the fourth amendment, just about collecting all the info they can. Whether it's really to stop terrorism or just because they want it, I don't know. To even come close to finding out, Congress and the White House have to know exactly what questions to ask. And even if they do, the politicians are afraid to restrict the people who are claiming that they're saving us from terrorism.
    But somebody's got to take control.
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    WTH... Why don't they do something about all the Chinese spies stealing intellectual properties from American companies and the pubic... instead of wasting valuable resources spying on us?

    Isn't there a freaking law against this crap?

    Those damned gamers are a dangerous bunch of geeks.... :rolleyes:
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    I think I may have accidentally shot a few of them in COD.
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    I'm wondering if there is a branch of NSA that has sex with prostitutes to find out if any of them are terrorists. I'm fairly certain that there is an entire division that is spying on porn sites to find out if terrorists are using some secret code to get their messages through on the porn sites. I only hope that they are using a "deconfliction group" to keep from double-monitoring the same porn sites. I would guess that the high-level guy in the EPA who was working on projects with the CIA was also working with the NSA teams on counter-terrorism.
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    Don't get too good at COD. That would be suspicious.
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    Good point.
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    I really don't know about what the NSA setup is--or what their institutional "checks" are to ensure things are done legally...but I can say that most of the intelligence agencies (the CIA and the military intelligence branches) have ample checks and balances within the system to make sure Congressional reporting is done...and independent monitors who have top-secret clearance and access to files in order to make sure nothing illegal is going on.

    I will say this though: I do agree that the NSA has gone too far with their domestic surveillance. IF our politicians didn't know about this stuff (or didn't ask), then the process needs to be fixed. One good way to start would be to start implementing the same institutional checks and balances that the CIA and other intelligence agencies have to work with. Clearly, if they do have a similar set-up (and I wouldn't know if they did, because they're somewhat separate from the other intelligence agencies), it isn't working and additional monitoring needs to be done.
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    Hope they rolled tanks. WoW has a serious tank shortage. :)
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    I hope they didn't spy on...

    Leroy Jenkins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FYI, if you don't get that reference, go to You Tube. It's pretty funny.
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    was it a good interview because the person said things that you believe in or because he provided actual proof that everything he said was factual and in proper context rather than just speculation on his part?
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    i'll take that job…got to do my part to support the war on terrorism
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    So we might ever play with them in wow, right?:D
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    This is not about collecting all the info that NSA can. They aren't getting any useful information from World of Warcraft (are you kidding?). It is about increasing the size of the NSA budget, any way they can. When security is a hot topic, you ask for more money, and then find a way to spend it. If your first idea is a brain-dead idea like monitoring a gaming website, go ahead and blow money on it. That becomes a slush fund that can be converted into other activities when you figure out what those activities are. The important thing is that your department has a never-ending supply of money, and that you are a more important gov't official because of it.

    Now think about it. What happens when EVERY government official thinks this way? Answer: you end up trillions in debt, with nothing to show for it. And guess what? Every gov't official thinks this way. Why wait for upper management to retire or die to get a promotion? You can promote yourself by growing your department.

    This isn't an NSA problem--it is a federal government problem. NSA is just the screwup of the week in that they got caught and it went public. Don't believe me? What did the FBI do immediately after 9-11? Recognize their culpability for allowing the terrorist act to occur and re-double their efforts to stop terrorism? No. Middle management of the FBI chose to commit treason against the United States and ordered their Arabic translators to work more slowly. Why? Because they were in a perfect position to ask for more money. Their new Arabic translators would be their slush fund.
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