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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by mocgator, Nov 4, 2013.
well, the good news is, it cannot get much worse.
Taylor, Fulwood, Robinson, Bailey, Cook, Lane and Grier give me tremendous hope. I can't imagine we will be down there for much longer with this assembly of talent no matter who the coach is.
2009 we were in the top 10 of total offense. Not sure why everyone thinks that offense was so terrible.
Because we struggled to throw the ball, Tebow seemed to regress and Saban absolutely humiliated us in the SECCG.
Agreed. Expectations were as high as it ever has been with that team. Probably why we remember it differently. We struggled at times but it was still a very good offense with great players.
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2009 began the era of the Divemaster. I thought nobody could do less with more, but Muschamp and Pease are discovering new realms of offensive spelunking.
I think we were barely inside the Top 100 in 2010.
80's. I think.
Because we ran up the yards against awful teams, and struggled against almost every SEC team that year.
Meh... we beat every SEC team (except Arky) by double digits.
Beat #4 LSU in Baton Rouge at night by 10.
Spanked uga by 24.
Spanked f$u by 27.
The real problem was the expectations were out of control based on what we did in 2008 and who we had coming back. Some people actually believe it should have been a "cakewalk" to win a 3rd NC. Unfortunately they are just now realizing how good we actually were back then.
The '09 team dropped off big time in the red zone too. I calculated a stat I think after 2009 because the simple RZ % used today is maybe the worst stat in football. I called it aptly points per red zone attempt and it was quite simple: PAT's didn't count either way so a TD was six, a FG three, and of course nothing for not scoring. Our '08 team led the SEC in it at 4.99 points per trip to the red zone. Our 2009 team was way down the list at 3.75 points per attempt. Interestingly both teams got to the red zone the exact same number of times- 68. The 2009 team settled for 17 field goals and didn't score at all an insane 17 times. Over the course of the '09 season we lost 84 points in the red zone compared to 2008.
The warning signs were all over the place with that '09 team and honestly I've always thought it was a very poor 12-1 coaching job before we let the team play in the Sugar Bowl. Tebow's '07 was the single best deep ball season I've ever seen honestly. We ran a lot less of it in '08 but were good enough to score a lot anyway and by '09 the play was completely nonexistent until the Sugar Bowl. Let's not forget we needed officials bad enough to get suspended to help us get by an Arkansas team that out coached and out played us. That '09 offense was clearly a lot better than what we've had since but they had visible issues and severely underachieved.
The pure talent level alone of harvin and tebow helped hide the lack of playmakers behind those 2. We could see it a little once harvin left tebow struggled to do it all him self. Meyer saw this once tebow left and he himself bolted. It's sad when a coach follows his 2 best off. Players hes ever had right out the door.
371 yards per game is decent enough against SEC teams, just about 35 fewer per game than the year prior.
It's because the offense was a massive underachievement, but compared to these last 4 offenses it was the greatest offense of all time. In SEC games the offense was average as well. We really padded up the stats that season against the 3 OOC cupcakes we faced to make the overall ranking look good.
And FWIW, our offense went from ranked 6th in 09 to 86th in 10 thats a 80 point drop. That doubles the drop from champ, which both suck. But it shows the problems that are plaguing champ (besides injuries) was rearing its ugly head in meyers final seasons.
We said the same thing a few years ago, it can.
We beat them because of defense:
Here is the points we scored that year against SEC teams:
23 vs Tennessee
41 vs Kentucky\
13 vs LSU
23 vs Arkansas
29 vs MSU (22 offensive)
41 vs UGA
27 vs Vandy
13 vs Bama
We finished tied 4th among SEC teams in PPG vs SEC opponents. That offense is the biggest underperforming offense I have seen in a long time, if not ever.
I did the stats a few years back. I believe the 09 offense averaged 27 ppg in conference play (most of which was against terrible UGA and UK) while the 08 offense averaged 42 ppg in conference play.
Maybe, but our team was full of talent that Addazio squandered. Everyone said we don't pass because our WRs weren't good, but we had 3 NFL WRs (Cooper, Thompson, and Nelson) and an NFL receiving TE (Hernandez).
Not to mention we had 4 OL that went on to start NFL games as a rookie.