Kurds advance against militants with U.S. air support

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    Good news. Now they just need to keep pushing.

    http://news.yahoo.com/kurds-advance-against-militants-u-air-support-154428426.html

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Isis try and blow that dam if they can't hold it.
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    I believe that also but's our embassy at risk.
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    The two dams represent major destructive power. And the Mosul dam is in jeopardy of structural collapse from lack of required maintenance.

    Still suspicious of Maliki ordering kurds out and replacing them with Iraqi troops right before Mosul fell and $60 million in the central bank there disappeared. Wonder how much of that is in Maliki swiss accounts
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    If the Kurds had all kinds of trouble selling crude from their oil fields, who is buying the crude from the ISIS oil fields?
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    Still don't understand why their oil production and refineries have not been taken out. Simple fixed targets that would seriously impede their finances and their mobility.
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    likely because we know we would end up paying for them to be rebuilt.
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    I never saw the need for the 1st Iraqi invasion but my god, this ISIS gang is actual evil and may serve as an example of why we have to have military power and what we should use it for. I hope that with our air power the kurdish forces and those in the iraqi army that haven't thrown down their weapons and run away can win their own fight.
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    Iraq has sufficient reserves that private oil companies would fund the reconstruction. Odd that they have a sovereign wealth fund but we borrow money to give to them...then to top it off we don't even use the aid as leverage
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    These bastards are the WMD we were lied about in the past. Obama needs to get off his ass, join Britain and France,end this threat once and for all. For the first time in 60 years we have a justified, possibly civilization saving mission. Do it.
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    We need to keep helping the Kurds. With some more air support they should be able to beat back isis.

    Why cannot we do anything about stopping the deep pockets funding isis?
    Where does Iran stand in regards to isis?
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    Strongly opposed.
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    The only state in the region that could be truly friendly on ideological borders is Saudi Arabia, which is threatened more by potential political and institutional means.

    ISIS really has no friends in the region; even the "deep pockets" are not state-sanctioned and aren't really all that "deep."
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    Isis is self funding with oil revenues and the $500 M +/- in cash and gold they found in Mosul central bank

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ist-makes-it-worlds-richest-terror-group.html

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    Having already cemented its status as the Middle East's most feared Islamist militant organisation, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) appear well-equipped to claim another distinction: the world's wealthiest terror group.
    With this week's capture of Mosul, the al-Qaeda splinter grouping is believed to have come into undreamed of new wealth after making off with 500 billion dinars - £256 million - from the northern Iraqi city's central bank.
    The radical group is also said to have made off with a large amount of gold bullion from the bank, which was left unguarded in the chaos accompanying the militants' takeover of the city, which is one of Iraq's main oil centres.
    Atheel al-Nujaifi, the governor of Nineveh province, said ISIS members had also seized many more millions from banks across the region. "

    good news is Sunni tribes ready to fight ISIS

    http://news.msn.com/world/sunni-tri...le-islamic-state-if-baghdad-makes-concessions

    "Leaders of Iraq's Sunni Muslim tribes threatened Friday to rebel against the Islamic State, the first indication that a change of government in Baghdad might allow a new prime minister to rally the country's divided ethnic and religious groups against the Islamist extremists.
    But the Sunni offer to battle the militants came with strings — possible autonomy and the withdrawal of Iraqi military forces from Sunni areas — that would be difficult for a Shiite-led government to grant, and Shiite politicians in Baghdad showed little enthusiasm. One, Dhiaa al Asadi, a member of Parliament loyal to cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, called the Sunni proposal "very exaggerated and unrealistic."
    U.S. officials have predicted since the Islamic State began its sweep through much of central, western and northern Iraq, often with the collaboration of Sunni tribes, that a more conciliatory government in Baghdad, coupled with harsh rule imposed by the Islamists, would move disaffected Sunnis to rebel. That's one reason the U.S. pushed so hard for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to resign in favor of a replacement who would be more disposed to offer concessions to Sunnis and Kurds.
    That happened Thursday, with al-Maliki endorsing a fellow member of the Dawa party, Haider al-Abadi, to succeed him.
    Then Friday came the first suggestion that the U.S. theory might prove accurate: an impromptu televised speech by one of the leading Sunni tribal leaders, Ali Hatem, the head of the Dulaim tribe who has sought refuge in Irbil, the capital of Iraq's autonomous Kurdish zone, from an arrest warrant issued by the Baghdad government charging him with treason.
    Hatem, whose Dulaim clan is the largest in Anbar province, said tens of thousands of Sunni tribesmen and other anti-government groups now supporting the Islamic State would change their loyalties if the new government in Baghdad offered something in return. He said that the Islamic State includes thousands of non-Iraqis who could easily be defeated by Iraq's much larger complex of Sunni tribes."
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    For a group that has no friends they sure get a lot of funding.
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    Desert Storm?
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    a coalition of Western forces in the ME is one of the main reasons why ISIS exists. No more nation building from the West. We should be pushing Egypt, SA and Jordan to step up in the region and get their hands dirty. This is where they live, they should be the ones to handle it with their lives not American lives.
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    Sunni armies have come and gone for a thousand years. You can blame it on the west, but that's not the case.

    As was the fate of all previous sunni armies, this one will ultimately be destroyed as well. They tend to step on everyones toes.
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    I am with you completely on this one dude.

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