Keystone Pipeline = only 50 permanent jobs

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    The House has already voted on allowing ALL of the oil to be exported after it is refined.

    Once again, skipping our own national security and cost, so an industry can use us for its own profit.
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    That seems like a high estimate, given that it is just literally just a big pipe moving oil from one place to another. What # seems more likely?
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    State Department report:

    But Obama was apparently referring to the Cornell University study:

    link
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    And I see that Breitbart is claiming Transcanada says the pipeline will create 20,000 new jobs. What Transcanada has said is 20,000 construction jobs. Not permanent jobs.

    But I suspect Breitbart knows its audience.
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    These pipelines have already failed in Canada. This is dirt with oil in it and much thicker than better quality oil so it has a lot more internal pressure on the pipe.

    The fifty will be looking for signs of failure as it will take a lot more when they do fail.

    And they will.
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    The issue with Keystone is not the number of jobs it will create to maintain it, it's the jobs at the southern end of the pipeline. The Motiva Refinery in Texas spent over a billion dollars to double its capacity AND be able to handle Canadian crude. You may not feel inclined to feel sorry for the oil industry, but they do employ people and pay taxes (in spite of rumors to the contrary), and they do provide products that most Americans use.

    And if the oil proves difficult to pump, I am certain that they will find a way to partially refine it at the northern end.
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    Obama's supposed shovel ready jobs, to be funded by the stimulus, would have only provided jobs until the projects were completed. That was ok?
    The left were touting that as a boon to the economy, but this is not good enough for
    the present.
    And with a chuckle, Obama said apparently they shovel ready jobs were not ready. This project is. I bet it is tiresome to continually defend someone without a clue.
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    Ever wonder why they must move it all the way to the sea, it is where they ship it out of our nation while our prices remain high.
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    Isn't that where the refineries are?
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    Not all of them. There are a bunch in inland areas like Colorado, Kansas, Indiana, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania ...
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    Yeah - sucks to have full-time employment for "only" two years.
    So much better to be employed part-time for 20 years, as are much of the new jobs in Obamaconomy.
    This just in: life is temporary. Work full-time for 2 years and go to school and acquire greater skills; then, get another "temporary" full-time job for 2-3 years. It's called life.
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    You will also be able to keep your insurance and doctor. Obama said so...
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    temporary jobs versus environment

    not surprising there is disagreement here

    that being said, we are pumping more domestic oil then ever
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    No thanks to Obama. More oil production is an effort of private enterprise. Anyone remember what that is?
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    Since Barack himself said it takes years for the production to come from new drilling, I guess we have to thank Bush and Clinton for the new production.
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    Are you suggesting that this exported oil is going to the international market free of charge?
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    Most of it on private land.
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    That is factoring in the time with the EPA road blocks.
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    So instead of pumping it through a pipe,closed system, let's fill up tanker trucks and run them across the country, much more environmentally friendly

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