Just the facts on elite coaches

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    "We can never win a game ever again because Urban Meyer once coached here."

    Muschamp is not gonna get 5 years to turn the corner. Nobody will. Nor should they. The team simply was not in that bad a shape when Muschamp took over. The 2010 recruiting class was ranked #1 and was loaded with studs. Yes there were holes but then again there were some serious holes in 2002 as well. Next year is gonna be make or break for Muschamp and unless things turn very quickly his seat is going to be red hot the entire offseason - as it should be.
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    ^^^^^ next year Muschamp should get to 10 wins based solely on his returning defense alone.
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    Gosh it sure is a good thing the fanbases of other major programs would never resort to comlaining about a lack of success from their first time head coach in the 3rd year of his tenure. No. They would calmly trust the judgment of their AD and wait for things to turn around. Only the whiny awful fanbase at UF would question the coaches at this point. :lie:
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    A. Notice how rarely the sec east is mentioned in the data. Twice. And...Spurrier, had HBC experience in the USFL and the ACC...and Richter benefited from weak UF, UT andbUSCe teams... The East is generally the toughest conference top to bottom.

    2. As mentioned all of those guys had HBC experience elsewhere.

    3. The SEC has grown deeper and stronger.

    4. Muschamp inherited a bit of a mess.

    5. He had us within a play or two of Atlanta in year two.

    Not saying the data won't ultimately ring true...just saying its a bit weak in actually determining Wills future.

    For instance...If Grier ends up being a rock star....opinions will change real fast.

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    Question:
    How many years did it take for Saban to win a NC after he became HC? Meyer? Miles?
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    Saban: 13 years

    Meyer: 6 years

    Miles: 6 years
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    Bad example Cam is 1-15 as a HBC #disgruntleddolphinsfan ;)

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    I'm going to help you out here:

    Forgetting that Saban didn't win as a HC a national championship in Toledo or MSt, it took him 4 yrs at LSU to win a NC. And Zook handed him his only loss in 2003.

    Meyer needed 2 years at Bowling Green, and 2 at Utah before becoming the HC at Florida.

    Miles spent 3 yrs at Ok St, and 3 yrs at LSU before his 1st NC. And that was a two loss LSU team, who got to the NCG with a lot of good luck on a crazy year.

    So give me a freaking break, your "facts" are presented in a very misleading way.
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    in 2014, fla will be young at several positions---muschamp should get through 2015 to get all his players in place on the roster
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    Unfortunately I give him till next year and that's it. If it is not getting done, then it is about time changes are made. 2014 season is more than enough time to get your team in check. 4 years, if you haven't figured it out, then you probably won't.
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    The people who are willing to fire our HC right now are acting like self entitled jackasses. Will inherited a dumpster fire on both sides of the ball. No talent on O. Frequent change of HC doesn't do you any good, you can ask TN.

    Muschamp isn't perfect, hell no single coach is. But he is doing things the right way. He has made us elite in defense in a short time and is reloading talent in that end. He will get the O fixed, although he has had apparently 2 misses in OC. Look at LSU and the change in 1 season due to a good OC.
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    Is this in reference to my post?

    Someone asked a question and I answered it.

    I didn't give any commentary about it what-so-ever. There is nothing misleading about it, so I'm not sure what your problem is.
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    Questions:

    1) do you honestly believe anybody at UF is willing to wait that long?

    2) Did Saban or Spurrier or Meyer or Miles coach a program as poweful/loaded as UF in their first head coaching jobs?
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    I would NOT want Muschamp's job for anything.

    Based on how some Gator 'fans' view what needs to be done, how it should be done, expectations, and in general--a basic grasp of reality....there is no way in hell would I want his job.

    Funny how Alabama used to be the school whose fanbase was spoiled and had a sense of entitlement isn't it.:ninja:
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    In 2014 UF will be very experienced overall. Muschamp will not get a 5th year if we don't have a championship by the end of his 4th year.

    Brown, Green, Humphries, Moore, Garcia all upperclass OL

    Murph and Driskel both upperclass QBs

    Dunbar and Debose upperclass WRs (TE's will be upperclassmen as well)

    Jones and Brown and Joyer upperclass RBs

    Orr and Cummings upper class DTs

    Fowler and Bullard upper class DEs

    Powell, Taylor, Ball, Morrison upper class LBs

    Gorman and Riggs upper class Safeties

    Roberson, and Purifoy upper class corners (not to mention Hargreaves who will be a returning superstar.


    Where on earth do you get this "we're gonna be young in 2014" stuff? We will be one of the most veteran teams in America. There will simply be no excuses.
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    Maybe you wouldn't want the head coaching job at UF. Rest assured, plenty of the top coaching prospects in America certainly would.
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    Newsflash: just because you keep repeating this to yourself doesn't mean it's true / going to happen.
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    Not at all. I was talking about the OP.
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    make $3-$4 million for coaching a few months, playing golf the rest of the year? you would take it, quickly, as would everyone else.
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    ^^^^ this. Plus when Baylor starts making your team look bad, then you know you've hit rock bottom.

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