Just how crazy is Kim Jong-un....

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    The people of North Korea need to be freed in the worst kind of way...


    Kim Jong-un's ex-girlfriend was among a dozen well-known North Korean performers who were executed by firing squad nine days ago

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ng-uns-ex-lover-executed-by-firing-squad.html

    All 12 were machine-gunned three days later, with other members of North Korea's most famous pop groups and their immediate families forced to watch. The onlookers were then sent to prison camps, victims of the regime's assumption of guilt by association, the reports stated.

    She was luckier than Kim Chol, vice minister of the army, who was executed with a mortar round in October 2012. Kim Chol was reportedly executed for drinking and carousing during the official mourning period after Kim Jong-il's death.

    On the explicit orders of Kim Jong-un to leave "no trace of him behind, down to his hair," according to South Korean media, Kim Chol was forced to stand on a spot that had been zeroed in for a mortar round and "obliterated." :whoa::whoa:
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    Not sure how kindly China would be if we deposed a leader on their border. I wonder which general would assume control if he was taken out. That country will have a long and hard transition to a modern world.
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    But his father shot the greatest round of golf in history with a hole in one on every hole.
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    Sounds like a guy the Chinese communists could grow to love.
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    Funny how this guy gets the limelight on how he treats his people but the country we do so much business with gets mentioned very little on their human rights violations.
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    You think the two are comparable? Have you ever been to China? I can assure you I didn't walk the streets in China in fear of the government gunning me down for no reason. Or firing a mortar at me because I partied until 4 a.m. in the streets of Beijing. There's a group of less than ideal and deplorable, and then there is bat shit crazy. It's no surprise which one garners the lion's share of attention.
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    I'm talking about how they treat their dissenters. Maybe it is not as drastic overall but many from Tiananmen Square and the Falun Dafa might take exception to that.
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    China has gone through a massive, massive shift in the last 20 years, though.
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    Maybe but they are still treating dissenters very harshly from the reports I have been reading. They just try to keep it low key.

    I'll use Wiki as a source, understanding it may not be totally accurate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong
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    ever see the 60 minutes piece on the man that was born and raised in one of NK prisons? he told on hois own mother escape attempt and she was subsequently killed in front of him and he was so far brainwashed he felt at the time that she deserved it for trying to escape. NK locks up 3 generations, and their children, for life, of any dissenters
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    I'm not trying to say China is as bad as NK. I am saying I doubt they are very upset about the way he treats his people though based on their own actions.
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    Pretty sure both of these were well publicized and drew international attention.

    China may not care what he does with his people. I concede that is possible. However, China dislikes instability and they know they can't trust the little SOB.
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    Any country who would put this previously posted video out, and then expect ANYONE to believe it....well, sorta speaks volumes.

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    Reports are it is still going on:

    "A trail of evidence was revealed in 2006 when a woman exposed that up to 4,000 Falun Gong adherents had been killed for their organs at the hospital she worked at outside of Shenyang, China.

    She also reported that her husband — a surgeon at the hospital — had removed cornea from the living bodies of 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners.

    A Chinese military doctor validated her story by claiming similar atrocities were happening in 36 different labor camps throughout China.

    These reports inspired two prominent Canadian human rights lawyers to launch an investigation. Former Secretary of State for Asia Pacific, David Kilgour, and human rights attorney, David Matas, published their own 140-page report that drew "the regrettable conclusion that the allegations are true.""


    http://theoaklandpress.com/articles/2013/08/28/opinion/doc521d0cba6a4c6193351986.txt


    I agree
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    I don't know, I wouldnt mind executing a few pop stars by firing squad. Maybe she couldnt follow up "Excellent Horse-like Lady" with a new hit. It's a dirty business.
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    And he never had to poop. Sheer greatness!
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    I just watched a documentary on that a couple nights ago. Camp 14: Total Control Zone. It's available on Netflix now. Amazing story, but the documentary is a little slow. A lot of footage of people in deep thought. As someone who has personal trauma in their past (although not close to their extent) it's easy to see why it's hard for them to talk.

    Another good doc dealing with a effed up situation is 5 Broken Cameras. Amazing amount of live footage.
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    Actually, on the Camp 14 story it's a even worse than that.

    He happened across his brother and mother talking. His brother had run away from the camp factory (if I recall) and his mother said he couldn't stay there, but gave him some food and told him to head for the hills.

    He then went to his teacher (so odd that they have any schools in a prison labor camp) and informed on them. The next day, he and his father were seperately. (again, odd that you can be arrested while already imprisoned.) He was tortured and interrogated for about 6-7 months mostly while in solitary. Then he and his father were returned to the camp. Directly to the execution of his brother and mother. She was hanged and he was shot.

    On the China issue. I watched another documentary called Seoul Train. There is something of an underground railroad set up to get North Korean refugees through China into Mongolia. If China catches them, they are sent back to North Korea (against international law) to be executed.
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    Oh those delightful Asians !

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