JJ Abrams..let the healing begin

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    the first step is admitting you have a problem.
    Abrams apologizesfor going batshit with lens flares. there may be hope for star wars yet.:geek:
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    I thought you were going to say he apologized for the 2 Star Trek movies he made .
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    I haven't seen Into Darkness yet but the first one he made was damn good.
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    this topic is the pubs version of a too hot thread :grin:
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    They were both good, just not Star Trek.
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    The dude says he wasn't a fan of Star Trek and they chose him to direct, and he had no concept of the soul of the series in that first movie.
    Please don't get me started on that travesty.
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    Amen. And now he is doing Star Wars.
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    The second one was equally good, IMHO. Less character development and more action.

    And pay no attention to the Trekkie/Trekker purists. :grin:
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    I liked the second one although I can see how a purist would be displeased. Abandoning the Prime Directive is a bit of a, shall we say, departure.
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    That's a rigid rule that might need to be altered. :grin:
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    I grew up watching the original Star Wars [correction: Star Trek] series and now have the DVD collection. I also thoroughly enjoyed the two Abrams movies, and have those DVDs as well. But I agree that the lens flares where a bit much.
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    You mean Star Trek? And I agree the lens flares were overdone.
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    Every director over-does something. Fincher lights every scene like it's a commercial. Spielberg lingers too long on facials expressions. I think Abrams is a fine director, but will do better work when he has a top drawer producer with a tight leash around his neck and an excellent screenplay. That will be the case with the Star Wars franchise.
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    I think the problem with Trekkie purists (and the purists of any genre be it super hero, LoTR, Harry Potter, etc) is they need to realize today's films need to be broadly accepted. Star Trek: First Contact is a great movie, it had a budget of 45 million and took in 150 million. That worked well for the 90's but today if you are making a blockbuster movie you need it to produce well over 300 million to be a success. In order to do that your movie needs to appeal to a broad audience and not just Trekkies. It is a difficult task to please both the purist Trekkie fans and appeal to a broader audience and unfortunately some older fans can be alienated by the approach. Overall though, I think the first Star Trek did a great job of sticking to the roots while being watchable by someone who knew nothing about Star Trek. I think the near 400 million it brought in and the stellar reviews agree with that.
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    I think you can stay true to the fans and still have a blockbuster...those are the people that will see the movie in theaters multiple times. I'm a star wars purist and I was so pissed about episode I that I waited to see all the others at my friends projection room. If they were worth a damn me and many others would've bought multiple tix

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    While I understand your point I tend to disagree. Lots of Star Wars purists people hate Episodes I-III. You may be more likely to find Star Wars fans who dislike it than those who like it. Yet, Episode I pulled in 1 billion dollars. Now you could argue part of that was because of the anticipation of the new Star Wars and that is probably part of it but Episode II still made 650 million and Episode III made 800+ million. So I would guess the studios are pretty happy with their decisions because it led to 3 HUGE blockbusters even with the disappointment from purists.
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    Correct. That was a typo. But I do have all the Star Wars movies as well. Not that I thought they were all good, just that I have young boys in the house that like them.
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    yeah well like..whatever man:geek:
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    That's what amazes me about both of those sagas. The kids see them for the first time and it's like when were we kids all over again. You see the excitement and anticipation of the sequel/s.. It's a priceless sight to behold.

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