Jimmy Dykes......Jarnell Stokes

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    Really enjoyed his discussion of leg strength and leg position when discussing Pat and Stokes.

    You can have all the high position you want on Stokes, if he's got that leg swing opportunity, you're done.

    Also very interesting about his rebounds below the basket.

    I love our team, but I would LOVE to add a "below the basket" rebounder" like Stokes.

    That dude was a space eater and worried me 10 times more than McRae....who runs around 25 feet from the basket.

    Amazing plan by Billy to make him work (also pointed out by Dykes) chasing Pat all day on those high screens, eventually wearing him down.
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    As good as our team is, it's hard not to feel bad about how close we came to adding Stokes a couple years ago. He would have brought a unique dimension to the team.
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    Yes, there aren't many like him.

    He really cannot be stopped underneath....really impressive game plan by Billy on Stokes.
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    Stokes is very strong with great hands. He also has excellent footwork. Total beast.
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    He was like a tank out there. If he wanted to go somewhere - he went and everyone needed to get out of the way. He also was as slow as a tank sometimes.

    I liked Dykes's discussion of lower vs upper body also and directly observed those principles during execution of the game. I agree with others that it seemed Stokes was parked too long under the basket - but the way the game was called, it worked out for the Gators who challenged every shot on the court. Gators swarmed around Stokes like angry bees and he plowed through and held defenders (to this unbiased eye) but we came out on top big time.

    Can't wait to see the adjustments on both sides in game in Knoxville.
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    The kid is a gamer. No doubt about that.
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    I'm surprised in looking at the box score that UT only out-rebounded us by five. We must have racked up a healthy margin in the second half; it seemed like the Vols got two or three shots every time down the court in the first.
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    Their misses in the second half were on shots that missed badly, on many occasions. I believe that was a byproduct of our defensive intensity, their frustration and the separation we got.

    We also wore down Stokes and Maymon and they were less effective on the boards in the latter half of the 2nd.
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    Stokes is a freak for sure.
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    I was shocked that Stokes was credited with just 10 rebounds. I thought he had that many on the offensive side alone
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    That game in Knoxville is going to be one of the two toughest games left on our schedule.
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    This does raise a question I've been meaning to ask. If Stokes tips a missed shot out to, say, Jordan McRae, does McRae get credit for the rebound or does Stokes? I feel like Stokes kept a lot of shots alive Saturday without necessarily corralling all of them.
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    Personally, I think Dykes one of the best CB commentators out there.
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    I think it goes to the man that secures the ball, so in your situation the rebound would go to McRae. Patric Young's rebounding numbers would look a lot better if tipped balls were counted as rebounds.
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    Good question. Maybe they should add a rebound assist category.
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    Same thing on steals.....

    Wilby tips a pass that lands in Yeguetes lap.....Yeguete gets the steal, even though Wilby made the play.

    Assists can be just as wishy-washy.

    Scottie can throw a perfect pass that someone lays in.....assist.

    Kasey throws the same pass, to the same guy, in the same location.... shot rims out...no assist.

    Yet they did the exact same thing.
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    Stokes was also good at hooking Pat with the elbow on some of those drives.
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    We could call this statistic "The Calathes."
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    Without a doubt. And in my opinion it aint close
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    I like him and Bilas a ton. They both get a little blustery at time, but those two are head and shoulders above everyone else. They have a ton of knowledge about the game and they share it. I really dislike when coaches offer the same BS that other commentators say all the time, when I know they've got more to offer us than the same tired cliches.
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