Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ncbullgator, Feb 12, 2018.
Just a shot of JB on the sideline of the Swamp.
No problem with championing environmental issues, such as 'save the manatee', and the Everglades--he's done some commendable work on those fronts--it's when he conflates those issues with purported champions thereof, including all their associated baggage--e.g.--Shillary--which serves to taint both his purported causes, and his brand, rather than doing much to bolster the object of his support.
(upon recollection, for all his love and cred, and effectiveness vis a vis specific cause, just about every candidate he's gone to bat for, has lost--e.g.--the Shill, Chuckles Crist...).
Not that I really follow much about what he does, but I don't recall him really going "all in" with a candidate, I'm sure he donates big $ and votes loyally for whoever the Dems nominate, but I don't see him actively campaigning or using his name for a candidate in the way he has for specific causes like the Everglades and save the Manatee.
See, I'd file doing a benefit concert for a specific candy on election eve, under "going all in", and removing any doubts or reservations about such a candy.
...but of course, that's just me.
AH ok, like I said, I don't pay much attention to what Buffet does. Whats the point of a benefit concert on election eve? Seems like the money would be irrelevant at that point.
Interesting point--goes to what I believe, was the NYT article's point--his older stuff has a melancholy, bluesy, somber back drop to it, albeit peppered with so many great straight up party tunes, like CB/paradise, Volcano, and such. But there was laid back, chill'n, all-good vibe that permeated through some of the more somber tunes.
Some of the newer stuff, seems like he's so damn HAPPY--like he can't control or contain his joy because he's so loaded--that might speak subtly to what you're referring to here.
...but I like it all, frankly. I like the newer stuff, just because it's fresh.
...and the 'happy' that permeates through the crevices, is fine by me--I like happy; it's why I listen to Buffett to begin with.
The money perhaps, but the cred, the peer pressure, the putting his weight behind the candy, prolly calculated to generate some momentum...
I think it triggers more of an "FU/STFU (and play)" back lash--imho.
This reminds me of a story (I've posted this story many times before, so forgive me if you've heard it), but when Don Henley played in St. Pete a couple of decades ago now, he started preaching at the audience about some libby cause or other (don't even remember what it was)--the audience booed. Straight up booed his ass, until he shut his ass up, and began playing again--then everyone applauded, and got on with losing themselves in the show....
C'est la vie.
Didn't he do a little campaigning for Lawton Chiles for governor?
Maybe, that was well before my political consciousness existed though.
^^^oh, this tripped another memory related to Don Henley, and relevant to this thread--last Friday, I had me one of those "...dead head sticker on a Cadillac" moments--pulled up to a gas station to gas up vehicle--I see a group of bikers on their Hogs, complete with their biker babes...
Loud as you please, these cats are sitting around, jamming to...
(or HIP HOP--whatever; same nauseating shit noise to me...).
Left me scratching my head, wondering at how the sound track did not seem to match the movie I was watching....
...like Don Henley sang about seeing "a dead head sticker on a caddy" so many years ago...
Sign o' the times, I guess...
NOTE: for the benefit of any millennial lurkers who might be wondering WTH does that mean:
"Deadhead" = faithful followers of the Grateful Dead, a band that was the epitome of anti-establishment, counter culture. Hippies, druggies, ppl. who symbolically represented a rejection of mainstream civilization, especially capitalism.
"Cadillac" = the quintessential status symbol of capitalism in the 80's.
Hence a 'DH sticker on a caddy' represented a colossal contradiction in values--which I suppose, was consistent with former DH's 'growing up', and becoming 'yuppies' (young urban professionals...)--but still, a patent contradiction in purported values represented by each.
Well, everybody liked ol' walk'n Lawton--not much controversial about him, so I wouldn't count that one.
I don't know, I think its just generational, not a contradiction of values. All my life, even the most redneck people I've known that are my age or younger have listened to either the worst kind of ghetto rap and the worst kind of country music. I've known too many guys that had jacked up trucks built for "mudin'" that also had a subwolfer system for blasting the bass lines of their favorite rap music for it to be a unicorn kind of coincidence.
Ahhh...so it's like a Phish Phan sticker on a Tesla.
How about an Insane Clown Posse sticker on a BMW SUV?
Magnets, how do they work?
Also, I'd argue that by the '80s the Dead touring machine was a ruthless capitalist apparatus and that having a DH sticker on your Cadillac was not a contradiction of values, but rather a joining of values. Discuss.
Yall are killin me.
I have no idea who phish phsn or clown posse are...
I'll need a few bong hits to process that one...
Phish are basically the GD 2.0, slightly less hippy dippy in ethos, slightly more virtuoso in their musicianship. Same level of drug use associated with their respective fan bases, which probably contain many of the same people. Jerry Garcia died when I was in HS so Phish is like the closest thing people my age have to going to a Dead show.
I can't say with any authority because it's not my type of music, but I think Phish is the new Grateful Dead, at least when it comes to neo-hippies on drugs following a jam band around the country.