JFK - 0bama

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    Old enough to remember JFK as POTUS. Read a lot about him in 60s and 70s post his death. Then read Killing of Kennedy. All of that brought back some memories.

    JFK would be considered a right wing extremist today by 0bamao and Co. Why?

    > He was a practicing Roman Catholic who actually attended Mass. Prayed. In spite of his well known marital infidelity (like King David), he was a man of faith.

    > Wanted to cut taxes to boost the economy. Gee, where did he get that idea.

    > Was opposite his Democratic Party on civil rights, not as far as his brother RK, but was in favor of the civil rights cause. Remember, the Democrats were all about segregation.

    > Believed in a strong military. Faced down Russia in 1962 and actually called them on TV "Liars". He (see on you tube) called the Soviet Ambassador a liar.

    > Was very much anti Communist. Wanted to stop the spread of communism, yet did not want to get in a muck in Vietnam.

    > Loved the USA. Did not give speeches apologizing for the USA.

    Imho, I think he was growing into becoming a great President, but since it was cut short, he got canonized as greater than actual.
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    Oh cool, this thread. So the Pubs can co-opt Kennedy and the Dems can co-opt Reagan and once again nobody will be honest about anything.
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    Co-opt? Dispute the facts.

    Cant? Then yell co-opt!

    Next try lies. Thats lib game plan
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    > JFK lowered the top rates but closed loopholes, which created more revenue then what was lost via the cuts. So essentially he raised taxes.

    > The Democrats who opposed desegregation (Dixiecrats) all migrated to the Republican Party. See Nixon's "Southern Strategy"

    > Outside of the Benghazi incident where they may or may not have dropped the ball, Obama has generally been quite strong on military issues. Restraint is not a weakness, especially after our last presidents decisions.

    > We are not fighting Communism, and China is our leading trade partner

    > You have no idea what is or was in either's heart


    Basically, your post is a pile of chit, but carry on...
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    If "Killing of Kennedy" is a reference to "Killing Kennedy" by Bill O'Reilly, that is a pile of chit.
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    Imagine how good JFK and Reagan would appear if they had the golden teleprompter of the 21st century that makes people look like they care and know what they're talking about.
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    You mean like an actor?
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    You are aware that your conclusion was not based on fact but opinion, right? It's no less baseless than when libs try to claim that Ronald Reagan wouldn't even be considered a Republican by today's GOP.

    And just as the libs sadly co-opt Reagan, the same could be said about similar co-opting of JFK.
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    Is it true JFK was going to sign a bill to abolish the Fed after he was assassinated?
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    No, not really. He had talked about minting silver, which sort of drives that conspiracy.
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    OK, thought it sounded hokey but still felt the need to ask the question.
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    Did you even hear, or read, any of Reagan's speeches? Obama is more like Putin than anyone like Reagan. But JFK was a modern conservative of the '60's. A radical republican like Lincoln.
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    I'm not the one saying Reagan wouldn't be considered a Republican today and I'm not the one saying Kennedy wouldn't be considered a Democrat today. Both are transparent, sad, gestures to co-opt a generally popular politician.
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    JFK signed an executive order for our money to once again be backed by silver and there were smaller denomination bills actually in circulation....this would have directly disbanded the Fed because he knew the people--- if given a choice would take the silver backed currency over the Fed's monopoly money....he was assassinated shortly thereafter and those silver backed bills were taken out of circulation...definitely not a " conspiracy theory"
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    That order was signed and remained on the books until Reagan got into office.

    It did not directly disband the Fed, clearly.
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    In fact, it was Kennedy himself who wanted to get out of minting silver anyway:

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    Actually it is not. It was a well researched and interesting read. But we would not expect libbies to read...they get their history from MSNBC and CBS.
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    Breton Woods didnt happen until 1971. So, there was still a lot of lingering thinking that money had to be "backed" by metal.
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    Read O'Reilly's account of standing on the doorstep of DeMohrenschildt in Florida and hearing the shot that killed him. It is a "pile of chit" from a shameless liar. It's a matter of record that O'Reilly was in Texas at the time, where he worked. But who's going to call him out on it (aside from JFK researchers who know something about the case but will never be invited to his "No Spin Zone")?

    What is that supposed to mean?
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    Some libs can't read..or can't comprehend...or don't want to comprehend.

    I posted this that reading Killing Kennedy book brought back memories of books I read from 60s and 70s as well as my own memory having lived thru those times. But let's ignore that and bash me and KK. Maybe some libs should actually read history books written shortly after or during the historical event, that way revisionism is lessened.

    Libs also bash Reagan for being a former "actor", but they have no problem with the "actor" in the White House now, who cant put 3 words together without a teleprompter.

    Libs have no problem with a man in the White House whose credentials was that of a Community Organizer and follower of Rev Wright. But they do have a problem with a man who was a Governor of the large state of Calif after being an "actor".

    Libs have no problem with a comedian serving in Congress (Franken) , a tax cheat serving in Congress (Rangel), perjurer serving as POTUS (Clinton), or a bloated hypocrite (Gore) serving in Congress and Ex Branch.

    But they have a problem with a former "actor" ?

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