Jacob Coker Not as Good as Some Might Think?

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    What happened to the big time recruit Bama had a couple years ago, Cooper Bateman? I know we wanted him big time. Is he still on their team?
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    We'll find out how good a fit he is soon enough. I know it is team vs. team but I think Driskel will have to out-play Bama's QB for us to win.
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    Yes but...........

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    It's just so ridiculous watching that guy play a coach.
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    They scrimmage this Saturday and Saban wouldn't even give the QB stats out for the scrimmage. The rumor is both of Bama's QB's struggled. Saban said Sims is making quicker decisions than Coker. Saban did say Coker did well in practice during the week. The Oline also struggled to be physical and Saban made some excuse about one of the starting OG's missing and a back up OL not playing. Which might make sense until you realize that a few of Bama's best front 7 players did not scrimmage as well. Bama is having problems with the QB and OL.
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    Disagree. Kiffin hit the Peter Principle as a head coach. He is an excellent OC. But does it matter? Saban has his thumb on everything...
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    Excellent OC based on what? Since Norm Chow was the real brains behind the Southern Cal offense through 2004, are we only talking about the 2005 Trojans, who had clear disproportionate talent against everyone they played until Texas? I have to say I really admired his decision to go for it on 4th and 1 in that championship game against the only good defensive line he had faced all season. I admired it all the way through Vince Young's run into the end zone.

    So other than 2005, what are we talking about here?

    Kiffin is a clown, a clown with a family name that gave him opportunities he never should have gotten.

    But I do agree that just by virtue of being under Saban's thumb at Bama his personality flaws will be hidden for a while. And people will again forget how unaccomplished he really is.
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    Agree. Kiffin could well turn out to be like Pease - only successful in a well established, successful offense that the players already know.
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    One other thing that Saban has not been shy at talking about is the player really like Sims. It seems like he realizes Coker is really going to have to show he is a lot better than Sims because if he doesnt and Saban choses Coker the players are not going to be happy about it.
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    I think Kiffin can coach there just might not be a QB he or Saban likes on the roster. Remember last year it was Bama's first year with a new Oline coach. Bama''s Oline coach had to leave for the NFL because he was one of the people who had coached for the Miami hurricanes when they were cheating so Bama hired Mario Cristobal who is more of a recruiter than coach.
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    Florida hasn't won @ Alabama since 1998, and that was a 7-5 team. UF does not historically beat decent Alabama teams in tuscaloosa.
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    Not yet we don't, but after this year... Look out Bama! :D
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    Well, that would be such a shame if he sucked.
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    Sorry, that's boring... We are going to go into Bama, and whip them good! Beeyaaaahhh!!!

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    I personally think those kind of stats are stupid and pretty meaningless.
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    I mean, it's just what has happened historically. I just thought I'd mention it. To say it is meaningless is perhaps, a little short-sighted, but whatever.

    People shouldn't get their hopes built up so big for this game. It's not critical to the teams success, IMO, unless it's a total emasculating slaughter. UF could easily win this game and still lose the division.
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    Nobody historically beats Bama in Tuscaloosa, the SEC front office wouldn't stand for that! That doesn't mean that we have no chance and I perfer to be optimistic.
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    We have beaten Alabama at their home plenty of times during history . We beat them in 1951 30-21 on their homecoming, We beat #3 ranked Alabama in 1963 in Tuscaloosa 10-6. We beat them in 1987 in Birmingham 23-14 thanks to Emmitt Smith. 1990 in Tuscaloosa 17-13 in Spurriers first encounter with the Tide. 1993 beat them for the SEC Championship in Birmingham. 1998 beat them in Tuscaloosa 16-10 . Alabama has beaten us 2 times since 1972 in Tuscaloosa and 1 time in Birmingham for the SEC Title in 1992 when the Gators almost pulled a miracle out against eventual National Champ.

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    You do realize that since 1998, we have played at Alabama a grand total of 2 times (2005 and 2010), correct? Most teams don't play well in Tuscaloosa. I would be pleasantly shocked and surprised if we won there, but that 1998 stat is pretty weak.
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    If Saban chose him as his OC, then by definition, he must be pretty good. Then again, Saban doesn't allow the personal emotionalism of fans get in the way of his analysis, which is infinitely more in-depth than anything the fans know.

    I can use anecdotal information to castigate offensive coaches with the greatest of reputations.

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