Its the WM way and it won't change

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    He is a defensive minded coach. He believes D wins games. So, power run, eat clock, keep his D off the field, and hope the O doesn't screw up. Well WM wrong.

    Once again very good D, and very poor O. samo samo. This style isn't going to change so WM ya better hope you win the sec east in the next few years otherwise unlike uga UF is not about to just have a winning season and be happy with that.
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    Do you feel better now?
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    I'm fine with keeping the other defense on the field, but I'd like to see us get to the line and force the D-line to be in their stance for 15 seconds or more. More time in position gives them less time to gasp for breath.
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    The D didnt win the game. Flat D. Worse O
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    I am very angry at our coaches right now. When did UF's style of play turn into the old Big 10 style?--3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    It's hard to watch our offense, and if this is the best we can come up with after our offseason, I don't expect our offense to improve much. I think we can still win a lot of games with our defense, but in big time emotional games, I think we should expect to have 2 or 3 more turnovers than our opponent. Tough to win when that happens.

    For me, the season hinges on Georgia now. I don't think we're winning any rings this year, so if we don't beat Georgia this year, I won't be a WM fan anymore.
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    The D wasnt flat..what game were you watching?
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    Champ was never a long-term solution. Foley was caught with his pants down for the third time in a decade having a top coach resign (SOS once, Urban twice). Champ was never a #1 choice. He was the #1 emergency choice: the one you call when you know you have no time for an extensive coaching search like the one conducted from October to late November 2004 when Zooker was a lame duck.

    Champ came to hold the program in status quo while the next great coach arose. Holding the program in status quo involves the following:

    1. Recruit like normal: CHECK

    2. Do not give much ground to your rivals: 1-1 vs FSU, 1-1 vs LSU, 0-2 vs UGA, 0-1 vs Miami, 2-0 vs Tennessee.
    For the most part, Champ gets a CHECK here.

    3. Do NOT get in trouble with the NCAA: CHECK

    4. Win your fair share. Champ has, just like Zooker did also. CHECK


    Not sure if the next great superstar coach is ready to be hired. Lets hope Champ can do better than status quo.
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    There were some good plays, but nothing knocked my socks off. Some good play makers...but their so so O still got the TDs and we couldnt find the endzone if there were flares going off. The blocked punt was good, but otherwise not much from special teams. Not the kind of play I expect from this group. Head scratching coaching decisions. And a team that on the whole, I dont think ever got jazzed. Nope, all flat.
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    He can still turn it around though this season though. It will be hard, but if we can avoid the turnovers, hide Driskel's limitations, and continue to play strong D we should be able to win 8 games still.
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    As part of my previous post:


    Champ so far: 18-9 for a 0.667 winning percentage.

    Zooker: 23-14 for a 0.622 winning percentage.
    Now keep in mind Zook had 2003 FSU and 2004 Tennessee downright STOLEN from him. Give him 2 wins there and
    25-12= 0.676 winning percentage.

    Interesting eh?



    BTW I am by no means saying we should not have fired Zook or should fire Champ now. Simply making a case for what a "status-quo coach" gets you.
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    Pass whatever it is that you're smoking, I want to be that high. :)
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    And, I will add Zook was 2/3 against UGA, was their only loss in 2002 (13-1), Beat LSU 19-7 in Red Stick, and LSU's only loss in a MNC season. Nearly beat Miami in 2003 as well. So, I echo what you are saying.
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    I wish...lmao. But I'll settle for vodka =d
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    When you remove a coach that puts us so far behind because you lose players to transfers, recruits etc.

    He has all the tools coming in on offense, just needs to let someone have complete control of the offense imo.
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    Of course he was also 0-3 against MSU + Ole Miss...

    Btw, nearly beating anyone doesn't count unless they are the '73 Dolphins (correct year right?)
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    Zook acquired a solid team, didn't he?
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    This is my feeling as well. As I've stated before, I don't know how much Muschamp really controls the offense. It appears to me that he does, but I'm not sure...
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    Jeff missed an easy wide open Dunbar. Them threw a pick. That was the game. Jeff was off. They showed Jeff on t v during warm ups. He looked either sick or hung over
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    Even more similarities between Zook and Champ:


    1. DCs at the time UF hired them.
    2. No previous HC experience
    3. Former college DBs
    4. One way or another associated with UF (champ very loosely)
    5. Awesome recruiters
    6. Terrible with the media
    7. High energy high intensity amped up on adrenaline about to have an aneurism type guys
    8. Absolutely positively would say YES to Foley and run through a brick wall and swim through a piranha-infested lake for UF.

    If you had no one else when your top,coach quit, that is who you get.

    When will the next SOS/Urban/Saban reveal himself?

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