Is This The Death Of Labor Unions?

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  1. diehardgator1
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    The S C is going to take the case Tuesday of Health Care workers in Ill versus Gov Pat Quinn and the labor unions forcing them to pay dues even if they dont wont to join a union. This could have far reaching results and spell the death of unions. Some feeling is the SC will rule in favor of the workers. No body should have to pay anybody money to get a job in this country


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    he Supreme Court on Tuesday is set to hear a dispute regarding union fees that -- while failing to receive substantial media hype -- is poised to have major consequences on organized labor's recruiting.
    The justices will review a lawsuit filed by home-based health care workers against Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn over a state statute that requires public-sector employees to pay the portion of union dues that doesn't go to political activities, even if they choose not to be in the union.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...union-dues-has-big-impact-on-organized-labor/
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    Alrighty now... this is going to get good. Grab some popcorn and a beverage... sit back and watch the fireworks.
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    I'm sick to death of union protectionism... One more special interest group that needs to fall down to Earth.
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    Unions have become another vehicle for laundering money for the democratic party. They need to go away.
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    I think the unions saw this coming eventually. Their new strategy is to keep Democrats in the President's office and keep them running the Labor Relations Board.

    Crazy Joe Biden, 2016! Motto: They Are Out to Get You Again!
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    Let's get those 7-year-olds back on that assembly line where they belong!
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    So that's what the unions are up to... Saving the 7 year-olds from working the assembly lines..

    We have "new" laws that protect them...
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    He's not kidding -- he seriously thinks gold-plated lifetime pensions and hardfought work stoppages to make sure unassigned auto-workers are paid to sit around in break rooms is the only thing keeping us from plucking children off the kindergarten playground to drive frontloaders.
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    Unions are obsolete.
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    where is your indignation regarding the pre teen drug runners in our cities?

    but seriously, you think this is where we are headed? seriously
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    you shouldn't have to pay dues to a union that you don't want to join

    but you also shouldn't enjoy any of the benefits of being in a union if you don't pay money into it

    outside of that, workers should have the right to collectively bargain.
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    An employer is likely, for convenience, going to set similar parameters and conditions and benefits for their whole workforce. It would be... so utterly asinine to compel them not to do that because non-union employees might benefit incidentally from the union's efforts. Not their fault, and not the employer's fault.
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    the last company I worked for, quite easily had different "parameters and conditions and benefits" for unionized and non-unionized workers.

    if the business doesn't want to differentiate for convenience, their choice, and good for the non-unionized worker......nothing new, as unions have helped non-union workers in many ways, as is...
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    Yep. The Koch Brothers types in this country will settle for no less than the complete reversal of post-Industrial Age protections and wages.

    And the useful idiots who vote for their lackeys will one day wake up and find their jobs gone also.
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    Sounds logical to me.

    Problem is, with unions these days it's a lot more about self preservation than actual worker's rights. Why else would you need to employ strong-arm tactics to bolster membership. If membership has real benefits, then people will willingly sign up. That they are not - and are are resisting efforts to make them do so - indicates they don't see much if any benefit. Therein lies the problem for the union, not whether they can legally force people to pay dues.
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    They do plenty of harm, too, of course, like... costing them their jobs, for instance, when their demands reach unreasonable proportion. Or the ever popular harassment at the workplace to a) join the union, b) support the union, c) not to go to their own non-union job if it means crossing a picket.
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    "their" jobs?
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    Times have changed Fred. Unions have not. They have outgrown their usefulness. But are hanging on while dying a slow death. There is no talk about child labor. There is no talk about not paying overtime. Morgan and Morgan will see to that. LOL
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    Fred do you realize unions have cost more Americans their jobs than any other item. The unions have been a blessing to foreign countries by running our company's overseas because of unreasonable demands and wages. Just check out the cities states that are going BK today because of unions
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    Wrong... they should only have the right to work... as individuals.

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