Is Northwestern paving the way

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    Hopefully the Supreme Court nips this in the bud.
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    Not to be a hater, but this won't play that well with fans, this country is sure getting soft.
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    Here's the precedent that is going to be set in this case IMHO.

    Players will vote to not unionize under the threat already implied that, if they do, the school will disband the football program altogether.

    And let's remember that, thus far at least, the ruling that was handed-down by the NLRB only applied to private schools, not public universities from my understanding.

    So no, it's not going to have any major bearing on the college game as we know it, other than to force a restructuring of the NCAA's power structure as we are seeing from the vote handed down today in Indianapolis.
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    I agree.
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    This doesn't make any sense. Most major programs make the majority of their athletic revenue through football. It would take much more than this for a university to just say "forget it." That'd be the easiest to call bluff in the history of bluffs.
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    Yeah....and bye bye NU from the Big 10....er....I mean 12.
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    The NLRB does not have jurisdiction over state institutions and state employees, thus this ruling even if upheld would not apply to the majority of FBS universities. But it could be the camel's nose in the tent. Each state currently can decide if their "employees" can unionize, but California has already indicated they would be open to the idea. Ohio is already considering legislation that would ban unions for scholarship athletes at their state schools. I can't imagine that Alabama wouldn't be far behind.

    I'm not sure if shutting down Northwestern football for a year or two is a bluff. If the football union is eventually upheld and I'm the Big 10/11/12 conference, I would consider letting Northwestern drop football for a year or two. I'd give them enough money out of conference revenue to keep their other athletic programs going, then have them start up again. It would be difficult, but Northwestern and the other big schools might consider it worth the effort if it showed the world that the major conferences and football programs really were committed to stopping the movement.
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    Won't schools retain the option of dealing with student athletes as individuals? If yes, then I don't see the supply:demand ratio forcing the hand of the universities to deal with the unions. Players would simply be blacklisting themselves by going the union route. At worst, you would see a hit for a class or two, then the next level of players coming up would say "yeah, we'd rather play, no union for us."

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    I can see this needs to be stopped before all that you wrote about does happen. Football players are not University employees... period.
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    I am with those who agree this needs to be stopped.

    The one issue I have is if they get hurt in college, and it's a life long problem. I think it should be covered probably. I don't think they should get pay...considering almost every athletic department outside of a very few operate in the negative already...Paying players could be a very ugly downfall to college sports.
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    I wonder if the the players will be 1099 or w-2 ? If the players job is to 'play', they should get taxed like anyone else who works while going to college.
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    I've talked to numerous CFB fans about this, the vast majority told me it would be their last game in attendance if this came to fruition.
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    If you think Northwestern football sucks now just wait until they outsource all their scholarships to India and China :D
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    Sounds like addition by subtraction to me.....how's it working out for byu? And they never will be ND...
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    Brilliant!!!
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    From what I have read from one of the main players on this is that don't be surprised if the players vote no.
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    Pretty soon, the most common household saying by parents, "Life isn't fair" will only exist in history books.
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    How does this mean this country is getting soft?

    At any rate, this does show how ignorant people are about what is going on with this case and how they still feel it's a good idea to voice their ignorance.

    If the players end up voting for the union they can not change any NCAA rules. This only gives them the power to bargain with the school. Bargaining any form of monetary compensation would automatically make them ineligible to play.
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    Oh please. The first thing they will 'negotiate' is elimination of compensation causing ineligibility.

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