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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by Diesel350z, Dec 23, 2013.
Exactly! We are about to hire an OC not a HC...
More negativity. We need more of that around here. This place is getting ridiculous. Have some damn faith! GO GATORS! We return a ton of players, and our head coach has had previous success in year two. Year three obviously was snake bitten. (If you can't see that, you just don't want to) year one is almost always a scratch. So year four, barring a catastrophe, I think will be a solid year. I think this coordinator is going to be let loose, and able to throw caution to the wind. Plus, he KNOWS that if he preform well, he's almost guaranteed ahead coaching job somewhere some where else. And if it at worst, he does mediocre, like year two's offense; the defense will/should bring the thunder and keep us either winning, or in it to the end of every game. But hey, you don't want to have faith, so be it. Have fun worrying about it all Spring and Fall.
What negativity are you talking about... Man, put down the eggnog and go to sleep... Merry Christmas... Gator Fan.
Its been a long day!
I jumped in and saw gray posting his usual BS about muschamp. Thought I would intervene. Guess I misunderstood your post. It didn't come as positive. Sounded like you were being sarcastic. Any way, go gators! Off to bed...
This forum is not working correctly. What the hell? It's posting stuff incorrectly. Errors galore. And it also is giving me mod power! Lol
Good to get the new guy so he can get started. Don't demand anything more than looking like we are being coached on the O side of the ball. We have to get a lot better before we demand any one person change what we have now into a title team in one season. Just looking like an O would do for now.
Teaching the young players so they can do and be their best will end up as wins for us, further on up the road.
"Snakebitten" doesn't even come close to explaining why we lost some of those games this season. Try outcoached, outplayed, outhustled when we still had more talent than some of those teams we lost to.
Snakebitten is exactly what it was. Ask anyone around the country. Most everyone would cringe at the thought of relying on a third string qb. A QB that was never meant to start here. Also, Murphy was playing hurt. I assume you missed the quote by his dad recently? You know, the one where he said, Tyler, at one point, was so hurt that he couldn't lift his arm above his shoulder.
Now add in all the other ridiculous injuries, and of course you're going to suck.
For me, the only game that really bothered me was Georgia southern. But, that triple option is hard to stop. Add in a deflating loss at Carolina and a damn noon game. = recipe for disaster.
He deserves another year, IMO. I believe in him. Either way, GO GATORS!
Here is to hoping we finish building our new coaching staff with Roper as OC (looking forward to see who else we bring in / lose), keeping this class together and adding to it, and then starting killing it come Spring with a reinvigorated offense. The negativity is pretty bad around here. I think even the biggest supporters of Foley or CM agree that if this doesn't begin coming together next year (defense at least maintaining and offense significantly improving) that major changes will need to take place at the top of the program. I'm not sure anyone argues that here in realizing what is on the line. It's more about how to best way to move forward and support the team and what we all would prefer to be talking about / sharing about the program. Trashing the program based on inside speculation and constant negative projection gets tiring. We're all worried about it, just handling it differently. Some are still voicing their frustration, others realize the outcome will dictate end-of-year decisions for 2014 and accept that. It's just glass half full / half empty fan perceptions at this point and I wish most on this forum would give the current path a chance to succeed and that includes supporting the current program and keeping a positive vibe going into the last month of recruiting. It either works with MC and Roper/OL addition or we have a new head coach, probably some offensive hot shot coach, come 2015. So 2014 will be super interesting and I for one am looking forward to the unknowns and with so much on the line. That alone makes me pull for MC a bit, to see if he really can as a young head coach turn the program around. That would be really impressive.
I am a little bit excited about this hire. Yes, the ACC is crap, but his offenses were at the top of that pile. At Duke. Yes, THAT DUKE.
A lot still depends on getting a line coach and some more exceptionally large boys, but the days of tepid and uninspired play calling are over.
Geez, Todd, this is getting old. You DO realize that Jon Hoke was Spurrier's FIRST choice to be DC at USCe, right? I must have reminded you at least a dozen times, and when it was disclosed, you simply couldn't understand his reasoning. Well, perhaps it was because SOS didn't think Hoke was as bad as you thought he was...
And Spurrier was NO legend when he came to Florida in 1990. He shared an ACC title at Duke with the team that stomped him in the dirt, yet the ACC in those days gave a share of titles to ALL teams that shared the best conference record. By that reasoning, Zook won an SEC East title in 2003...
Actually, Duke's offense was middle of the pack in the ACC this year. It still was an accomplishment, considering the attrition they suffered from the previous year. Many believed their offense would suffer this year.
I have to disagree with Roper coming here to be a yes man. It may turn out that way, but I don't believe that was spelled out specifically.
With Roper securely attached to Cutcliffe at Duke, I doubt he makes this move unless he believes that he's being given the opportunity to enact positive change, implementing an aggressive offense and either fixing Driskel and/or developing Grier into an All American QB.
I think my disenchantment with Muschamp is very clear, but that doesn't keep me from approving of this hire. Now, is Roper's coaching talent fully realized at UF? That remains to be seen.
C'mon, Tommy, you know the rules:
Rule #1: If the head coach is despised, he always micromanages the assistants, no matter who the assistant is;
Rule #2: If the head coach is beloved, the assistants are on their own, and will shoulder the blame for any and all losses.
I think there is some truth to that.
Head coaches that are despised for a reason, usually because they are not good at their job. Micromanaging your subordinates is a characteristic of a bad manager.
In Case #2, the head coach (Meyer) checked out of his job and attempted to see it handed over to his trusty lieutenant Addazio. As a result, Addazio was blamed for the mess he helped create but ultimately wasn't responsible for.
Now, time for Captain Hindsight. With the advantage of seeing Addazio's success at Temple and Boston College, was Meyer right all along? If we had kept Steve and not gone down the Muschamp road, would be in a better place as a program? I'm not certain, but several successful Pennsylvania HS coaches I know told me the day Addazio took the Temple job that he was cut out to be a solid college head coach.
Here's my reasononing that Addazio why would not work here: unlike Meyer who adapted his offense to the strengths of Chris Leak, and that adaptation produced a national title....Addazio was not willing to do the same with John Brantley and as a result, Brantley looked like he was lost and thus the plethora of dive plays. That offense was as predictable as the 2013 offense = fail.
Scored on first 3 drives, TDs, against A&M, but don't let me get you guys back on topic.
Duke has now scored on first 5 drives vs A&M - all TDs. Aggies suck on defense, but this is very impressive to me. Running and passing it.
Agreed. Doing it against AIR is impressive.