Irsay dissses Peyton

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  1. mdfgator

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    Exactly, Montana had the far superior team, it was not even comparable
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    mdfgator Well-Known Member

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    Yup, talent wise it's not close, it's also not close upstairs or in the professionalism department
  3. bakaduin

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    I don't buy the whole "Choke" theory in a team game. To me it doesn't exist.

    To see Peyton's value as the GOAT all you have to do is look at 2011. The Colts had very similar squads in 2010 and 2011. The difference was no Peyton in 2011. They wen't from a 10-6 team in 2010 to a 2-14 team in 2011.

    Need further proof? While Peyton played with a few great offensive players (Wayne/Edge/Harrison) he mostly turned crap players into productive ones. Look at what Austin Collie did with and without Peyton. Dallas Clark, Brandon Stokley, basically every offensive lineman to go through Indy.

    IMO his struggles in the playoffs have a lot more to do with the combo of no quality running game and a defense that was built for a long season but not the rigors of playing the best teams in the playoffs.

    Did Peyton contribute to those losses? Absolutely. The Super Bowl vs. the Saints is an example where he throws an INT at the end of the game. At the same time though, if a player like Hank Baskett catches a routine onside kick we are talking about a guy with two Super Bowl rings instead of one.
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    I think you're probably right about Peyton's Colts teams just not being built well enough as a team to survive the playoffs, as opposed to him being a "choker" that let his teams down.

    But there are definitely players in all sports who excel in games when it doesn't mean anything, but who choke when the pressure is really on. And there are players who raise their play when the pressure is on.
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    Absolute insanity.
    You are right about Peyton but to try to downgrade Eli's contributions to the Superbowls is just silly. He is a clutch post season performer.
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    Solid post.
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    I do.

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    Interesting. What's your take on the 32-13 loss in the 2009 SEC Championship Game to Alabama where Tebow had a 38.2 Passer Rating with 1 TD and 1 Int?
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    My take is unlike Peyton, Tebow has two NCAA title rings and a Heisman before
    losing to the national champs one game away from playing for title three.

    Peyton got spotted two special team tds, yet couldnt win in his last
    playoff game.

    I am sure he wants another ring, but title history hasnt been as kind to
    the pure passer as it has to others not considered as good.
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    Some people really seem to have difficulty evaluating individual performance in a team sport.
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    Not a choke, but esophageal spasms.
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    that's not nice of jim--peyton and archie will not be happy.
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    Somewhat scumbags?.....You are being waaaayyyyy too easy on that family!
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    Way to recognize the hanging curve ball. :wink:
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    This is a family board...:)

    But I agree with you...
  17. mdfgator

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    What's the story on the irsay clan
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    Couldn't agree more.

    IMO, Peyton's Colts teams looked better than they were because of Peyton. If he has an average or poor game, the Colts weren't exactly in the same position as a team like the Patriots would have been with an average/poor game out of Brady.
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    If you have a bad performance in a big game, that is much less than your performance during other regular games, that is a choke.

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