Irsay dissses Peyton

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  1. JohnC1908
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    My God he couldn't sell a play action to save his life. He'd have the ball out two feet from his body. I always found that to be his biggest fault. I never thought of him as a choker though.
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    That came later though...it got worse has the leg issues increased...he held the ball that way on actual hand offs too.

    The play action did not work because teams were not afraid of the running game

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    Of course the criticism of Peyton's playoff history is valid but it is comical for Irsay to be complaining about "only one Super Bowl Ring". As though the Colts had been stockpiling them in the '80s and '90s. Irsay sounds like he's jealous over watching an ex thrive in a new relationship. Truth be told I'm sure he was hoping that Manning couldn't recover from the neck surgeries and that he would be a bust in Denver.
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    Just like the Packers were thankful the Saints took numerous cheap shots on Favre and the Vikings. They would have been apoplectic if the Vikings had won a Superbowl with Favre at the helm.
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    Sounds a lot like a Tebow fan.....
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    If the broncos win the Super Bowl this year, hopefully Bowlen flashes his ring at Irsay and says "I named it Peyton."
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    A lot of good points on both sides. Hard to say who is best between the two, but right now Peyton is killing it, and Eli's is getting killed. I think some of Eli's SB teams were better than Peyton's, although not by a great margin. Some luck is always involved in a team that wins a SB.
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    Using the logic of some on this thread, we'd be led to believe that Eli is better than Tom Brady because he's beaten him in two head to head Super Bowls.
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    I dont see how his comments were insulting...he's saying that you cant rely on elite QB play alone to win you a Super Bowl. Who wouldn't be disappointed when you only win one SB with one of the best QB's to ever play the game? He's admitting that the Colts failed to shore up the other areas of the team during the Peyton years that are necessary to win multiple Championships. When did football players/fans become so sensitive?
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    Then again, Manning won a Super Bowl at Indy.
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    Eli is having a bad year but it would be quite a stretch to say that he has been just average. In fact nether championship run would have happened with an average QB.
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    Clearly you have a bias. Not comparing Eli to Peyton but Eli has been a top 5 player at his position. Yes the Giants "D" played an extremely important role but if you look closely at Eli's performance in the championship years, you won't find average.
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    Losers call it luck!
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    Eli a top 5 player at his position for his career?

    Total touchdowns - 224 (220 passing & 4 rushing)
    Total turnovers - 233 (159 interceptions & 74 fumbles)
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    Not going to get into this pissing match. Just going to give my opinion and not return. (really don't care) Peyton Manning is one of the top three QBs of all time. Definitely top five. The best field general I've ever seen.
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    Don't compare Marino to Peyton.

    Never had a 1000 yard runner. Never had a top 10 defense. Never had an elite wide receiver. (The Mark brothers were merely average when they played with anyone but him.)
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    I said above average. There is a difference.
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    Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl as well. I'm not a Colts fan but if I were I'd be a little disappointed that Manning, considered by many to be a Top 5 QB of all time, only won one Super Bowl.
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    I said I wouldn't return but.....

    I don't think some people realize how hard it is to get to a Super Bowl. And actually win it. But to do it multiple times, you have to have: a great franchise, some luck, a quality team for many years, or occasionally jump onto one, etc...manning is easily one of the greats. I don't care if he's a UT grad or not, or if he never wins another Super Bowl. It's a pleasure to watch him work defenses. Him and Brady are this generation's Montana, Young, Marino etc... .. Rodgers is becoming that too, IMO. Slowly but surely.

    Now I'm out!
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    Hopefully, Peyton will win a couple of Super Bowls in Denver at the end of his career, then admit Irsay was right and enter the Hall of Fame as a Bronco because it just wouldn't be right to go in as a Colt after underachieving in Indy.

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