Iraq is on the brink of civil war

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  1. leogator

    leogator Well-Known Member

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    Did you serve in the war?
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    Bound to happen. I don't know if anything could head it off.
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    Maybe that country should be broken up into 3 different countries, a Kurdish one, Sunni, and a Shite one. Each with their own government and free to have their own elections, etc.
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    I'm pretty sure Turkey would do everuthing in its power to stop a sovereign Kurdish nation.
  6. leogator

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    No, I did not, but our ex next door neighbor did. You should ask his wife and children that question. This has nothing to do with abortion, so stay out of it.
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    Leaving Saddam alone would have.
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    Bombs went off in Pakistan today too. The cleansing has begun.
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    We had a Civil War so why can't Iraq?? I had no problem with taking out Sadaam and have said so for years. However, I believe we should have left right after taking him out and let Iraq work it out for themselves as it appears they are going to do anyway. There was no need to stay as long as we did. If the new leadership came up with someone worse than Sadaam then we take that person out and the cycle repeats until they figure it out. Would have cost us alot less soldiers lives with that scenario.
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    That would have been my choice. However that horse has long been out of the barn and what we have is a gigantic cluster #%*&.
  11. leogator

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    Not only that but now Iran can play a major role in Iraq with the Shiites pretty much inviting them in. They can also ship weapons and men to Syria through Iraq.
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    That is a major understatement there was one.
  13. leogator

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    The other problem is that the Kurdish warlords can never agree among themselves. Plus they are the ones that have been allowing Iranian weapons and men to travel freely to Syria and Lebanon. Of course after some rather hefty bribes.
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    Another idiot president that pushed us into a no-win situation war. Young men lost their lives for absolutely nothing.
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    the iraq invasion / war was based on bush settling a personal vendetta with saddam --- the CIA report about "weapons of mass destruction" was just a phony pretext for war.
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    Sadly, my friend....it seems that way. :no:
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    So your answer is a time machine then? Great. I would like a spin when you're done. I know my high school could have gone to state if Coach would have put me in.
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    The answer in Iraq is probably best to do nothing now and let them sort it out. And then pray the winner/new leader is more US friendly than Saddam was. But the chances of that are slim, considering one way to muster up support in the region is to be anti-US and anti-Israel.

    Going forward, let's up future administrations learn from past mistakes. It wasn't difficult to predict that democracy in Iraq was going to be incredibly difficult to succeed. A huge part of western democracy is minority rights. And in Iraq, whomever had the majority of power wasn't ever too kind to those with minority power. And the only times of "peace" in Iraq in recent history was either with a strong-arm colonial power, or a strong-arm despot like Saddam. Again, not difficult to predict that once both Saddam and the US left the region it would quickly destabilize.

    But the truth in Iraq is we spent billions and thousands lost their lives for nothing. Yes, Saddam is gone, but in an area where only despots can rule the current climate, it is better to deal with the devil you know. And if future Presidents learn this, that may be one positive from this debacle. If not, someone will be making bumper stickers that say XXX = Iraq = Vietnam.
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    I hope they exterminate each other. :ninja:
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    Since saddam used chemical weapons on his own people and we knew about it. He had WMD because chemical weapons are wmds

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