Interesting poll re: racisim in US

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    Blacks racist towards whites, or towards themselves? In my experience blacks hate blacks way more than whites do.
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    :huh:

    Is self hatred even racist? :no:
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    I'm not a hillbilly fan...
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    "Blacks racist towards whites, or towards themselves? In my experience blacks hate blacks way more than whites do."

    What experience do you and I have in regard to this? Here are some things that would form our 'experience'
    1, What we see in the media---left wing media, right wing media, sports media. In all three there is a tendency to focus on folks like Pacman Jones, criminals, as well as agenda by left wing media to try to insinuate that racism by blacks does not exist while at the same time there is much barely concealed hate of whites rhetoric coming from the mouths of many prominent blacks. Then the right wing media does what it can to highlight racism by blacks and minimize racism by whites. Then there is the sports media that glorifies thug behavior and due to high percent of pro athletes in baseball, football, basketball we get an onslaught of blacks doing some rather racist stuff. This is what we get from the media.
    2. But what sort of attitudes of blacks to we see in churches, workplace, stores, etc. For the most part there are a multitude of black people who are ashamed of the thuggery, racism, etc that is glorified in the media(such as mentioned above as well as in movies, music, etc)
    3. I find that for the most part that blacks and whites tend to treat each other with courtesy and decency in everyday settings. And that there are those among whites as well as blacks as well as other groups who bring shame on their own people via their own hatred of others.

    on 9/11 I was working at a hospital here in PB County that day. And it was a most horrible day. But I saw something happen in the afternoon I'll never forget. A Muslim doctor sobbing and in pain over the shame of his people at what the terrorists did. On each side of him were two Jewish doctors the Muslim doctor barely knew(different medical specialties). And the two Jewish doctors were comforting him. Israel is a country with more Muslims than Jews. and for the most part the majority of Jews and Muslims get along well together, good friends with each other, etc. And they both bemoan the hatred of radicals(be the radical a Jew or a Muslim). Everyday people are everyday people and tend to get along ---across many barriers--race, religion, even politics.

    a song that says it pretty well is
    Sometimes I'm right then I can be wrong
    My own beliefs are in my songs
    A butcher, a banker, a drummer and then
    Makes no difference what group I'm in
    I am everyday people

    There is a blue one who can't accept
    The green one for living with
    A black ones tryin' to be a skinny one
    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby

    Ooh sha sha
    We gotta live together

    I am no better and neither are you
    We're all the same whatever we do
    You love me you hate me
    You know me and then
    Still can't figure out the bag I'm in
    I am everyday people

    There is a long man
    That doesn't like the short man
    For being such a rich one
    That will not help the poor one
    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on scooby dooby dooby

    Ooh sha sha
    We got to live together

    There is a yellow one that won't
    Accept the black one
    That won't accept the red one
    That won't accept the white one

    Different strokes for different folks
    And so on and so on and
    Scooby dooby dooby
    Ooh sha sha
    I am everyday people"

    basically that everyday people just want to get along. despite their differences. The song is by a black group. In the song the singer acknowledges that blacks themselves can also be racist. This was in the era of the Black Panthers,etc which we tend to focus on because of the ugliness and notoriety that is trainwreck journalism(but true nonetheless that black Panthers were/are a terrorist group). But to try to assume all blacks are Black Panthers is like trying to claim all Germans to be Nazi's at heart during WWII.

    please note that Tom Jones is not black. but for the performance they had some fun and he went with a fro.
    Sir Thomas John Woodward, OBE, known by his stage name Tom Jones, is a Welsh singer doing the song with Sly and the Family Stone in 1976
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbC7ZR0_4l0
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    Why? What's a hillbilly ever done to you?
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    hopefully wasn't deliverenced.

    Sad thing is, there are actually people who believe the stereotype that all hillbillies are gay guys who rape white male outsiders. When that misperception is likely as far from the truth as it can be.

    By the way---did you know the term 'hillbilly' has interesting history itself

    per wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly
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    It. Was. A. Joke.
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    the term "racism" actually connotes that one thinks that another race is intrinsically inferior

    i highly doubt blacks believe this of whites

    many people misuse the term racism and don't understand its meaning, including black people

    i do see however that blacks could harbor more of a negative view towards whites based on what they believe, perceive, their personal experience, and history

    as for actual racism, whites are in the lead....mostly to do with lazy thinking
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    Probably told him he had a real purdy mouth.
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    Yep I believe all blacks are like Pacman Jones!!!!!
    Really.......... Where do you come up with your logic? If you truely are old, I feel sorry for the life you have been exposed to, to have the outlook you have.
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    I don't know, any post that manages to combine Pacman Jones, Tom Jones and Sly and the Family Stone gets my endorsement.
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    agree. a whole lot of stuff is thrown into the word 'racism.' I've long thought that more blacks think more racially in terms of likes and dislikes. but that's a long way from inferior/superior.
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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism


    1

    : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race


    2

    : racial prejudice or discrimination
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    Let's just simplify it to despising people on the basis of their appearance alone.
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    There are racists, viewpoints with racial overtones and individual actions that can be directed or prompted by a person's view of a particular race. Labeling someone as racist because of the latter two is usually inaccurate.
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    I think the point is racism, however you define it, is not limited to one side in this country. People will have their prejudices, but the way it is portrayed especially in the media, is that whites are the only race that engages in " racism" when that is obviously not true. Only whites can be racists. How many times do you hear someone called a racist, and they are referring to black or hispanics? Hardly ever. Racial profiling, only involves whites doing the profiling, especially in the reporting of the news. In fact it seems the media goes out of their way not to report the race of individuals if the perps are black, and the victims are white. No big deal, but should the opposite happen, then the its national news.
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    So, by the definition of racism, is it racist to think that the predominant culture of a certain race is superior or inferior? In other words, is it racist if you think that blacks are no different than whites, but (predominant) white culture is better than (predominant) black culture, or vice versa?
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    I don't know if anyone could ever say who is the most aggressive as far as racist by race. I can tell you no kid that grew up in the North has any idea what many white kids have gone through in places like Boca Ciega in the recent years in St Pete or even West Wood Jr. high school when I went there in the early 70's. I can promise you best know how to fight or run fast and it was a black aggressor against white.
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    I hate everybody equally


    where do I line up on that poll?
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