interesting op ed on killing prezBO care

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  1. g8orbill

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    Is he libertarian? or is he ultracon posing as libertarian?

    I base the questions on a sentence from the first paragraph of the article. Right after he announces himself as for 'personal liberty', the very next sentence is--
    sure looks like he is TP. Only question is whether TP stands for 'Tea Party' or 'Toilet Paper' with ultraconism taking the movement over.

    sure looks like ultracons are trying to infiltrate and usurp the Libertarian Party in same way they infiltrated and usurped the Tea Party.
    If Libertarians are indeed being taken over by ultracons----looks like they(Libertarian movement) should simply change their label to TP. As in a movement originally appealing to moderates but taken over by ultracons. How free will Libertarian movement be when ultracons start dictating other aspects of ultraconism in regard to religion, education, sex, etc.
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    ACA is going nowhere unless the law is repealed.

    This shutdown may be enough to flip the House back to Pelosi.
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    1- old read his bio at the bottom of the piece

    2- shab-I think this is just the opposite
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    You are dreaming. The folks don't like or want Obamacare by 60-40. With the cluster going on with the exchanges and people getting the prices, it will be worse.

    The point Root made is correct. Fund Obamacare fully for everyone. No exemptions, exceptions, preferred status. If it is good enough for the "folks" then it should be good enough for Congress, unions, Obama's family. PERIOD

    And then watch while it implodes.
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    The Dems will cave-in to the Pubs because of the budget deadline...
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    Wrong. 70% of the public blames this shutdown on the GOP. The generic congressional ballot is in favor of Dems by 9% at this time and that number will only grow as this goes on.
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    garbage poll if there is one. All will be forgotten on the guvmint shutdown and we will be left with Doofuscare, and the cluster bombs going off because of it. Passed with zero Pub votes.
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    The "public" aren't holding the purse-strings... so that's a moot point.
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    Just the sound of the word Pelosi makes me puke. I was watching Harry Reid yesterday and he comes across as a very, very angry old man who has no business making decisions for our country.
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    As opposed to bad car salesman, 300 rounds of golf a year Boehner?
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    That poll is biased by Soros. I got that call a few days ago and the way they were wording the questions was trying to fabricate their own conclusion. Things like, "Who do you think started the shutdown?" I said the Republicans, but they turned the next question into "So do you blame the republican for the shutdown?" So now it went from saying I'm backing the republican shutdown to blaming them for the shutdown. It's in how you word the questions to get to the 70%. Then, add a full-on liberal media blitz. I called her on it and she hung up on me. I wonder if my answers were turned into that 70% anyway. That's why I usually refuse these polls because they can manipulate the outcome.
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    I know a push poll when I hear one, and that doesn't sound like it.

    By now, you should know how well defying reality worked out for you with the presidential polling last year.
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    By the time of the 2014 midterm elections we will have a pretty good idea of how much prezBO care is going to affect us- we will then see what people actually think
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    Yeah... don't make me Pelosi :sick: on my keyboard by saying her name.
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    Pointless to debate Rick, he is in the same right wing bubble that Bill is in
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    Yep. Of Obamacare AND this shutdown.
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