Indian giver offers

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  1. subtle_gator
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    What happens (has happened) when we have more outstanding offers than spots available (this close to NSD), lower targeted kids commit, leaving no room for higher targets that wait till NSD?
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    Nobody commits without the approval of Will Muschamp.
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    i'm still missing something here, a kid can recieve an offer from Muschamp, take a week to think it over, commit and then be rejected?! There's gotta be more to it-any help??
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    Second post as bad as the first.. Can't wait for the third.
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    They typically call the coach to commit before they announce it to the public/media. I'd imagine this is where that type of discussion would occur.
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    subtle_gator

    "Indian giver"
    Really, dude?
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    Coaching staff has to make more offers than there are spots, because not everyone is going to commit.

    So when a player decides he wants in, the coaches need to look at how many have actually committed and who else they have in the pipeline before saying yes or no. When the coaches aren't sure if the player will fit in the class, they tell them (or should tell them) what the situation is and when they can let them know they can commit.

    Of course if the coaches don't accept their commitment, the player is free to go elsewhere. It's a two way street. And nothing is really set until the LOI is sent in.
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    I don't know, why don't you ask your buddies at Warchant what they do?
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    best answer so far but essentially we are just assuming and only those with inside access know. guess why we have the fan threads.
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    For the record, Saban accepts the higher players and grayshirts others that won't contribute. Vandy's James Franklin tore up the commitments from two local athletes here, saying the previous coach offered them and he didn't want them.
    And what happens when your Seminole program tells recruits to hoodwink us until the day of NSD, leaving a program with several unfilled slots? Any sympathy for the organization that gets screwed by some of these manipulative kids and coaches?
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    I mean really. Grow some class bro.

    It appears to me that in most cases when coaches offer scholarships to recruits, if the recruit wants to commit they still have to go through some sort of "authorization process" for lack of a better term. The coaches offer a lot of players at many positions and things wouldn't work if recruits could just accept at anytime on their own.
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    Light up bro-my mom is full blooded Navajo out of the Arizona area and i have spent countless summers with cousins that live on the reservation. It's commonly used figure of speech in our society, like Wash uses Redskins and FSU the Noles. UFreaks like yourself make it a bigger deal.
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    I jumped subtle_gator on her first post the other day... thought maybe he (she as it turns out) was a troll.

    But she responded she was a new poster and was just trying to get in and participate. For now, I'm taking the approach she hasn't been exposed to a lot of football and it's just an educational thing.

    For somebody not familiar with the recruiting process, I can kinda see how a player not being able to actually commit to an offer he received would seem like the coaches were "indian givers".

    There's not much for us to assume about it. Coaches determine when a player has a commit-able offer. They are trying to sign the best class they can.

    Also forgot to mention that schools are also vetting players to make sure they have their academics in order, and to some degree on personal/character issues. They can offer a player later to find out the player let their grades slip, or got into some kind of trouble, or got way out of shape, and decide against it. Even players that have committed can later have their offer revoked for those reasons.

    Players can decide to go elsewhere and often do if they don't understand why they can't commit, or are offended by it.
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    Sure you are bud, sure you are.

    It is the risk we take, Oaktown. I'm thinking troll.
    But much respect for you, Oak. You may be right.
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    "oh no it's cool I have black friends"
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    I am actually learning a lot, didn't know so much went into the Gators I love, just remember going to the Swamp on Saturday's as a kid with my dad and brother and just loving the experience. Until a close friend actually started going through the recruiting process (on a much lower scale) i wanted to know more. This time next year I may be ready for Insider Recruiting, if i'm not blindsided by the 5% of cynical gatornation first.
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    Don't we have an unwritten policy against newbies starting threads...

    Who is this "indian giver?"
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    And you're not a fan of the SOW?
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    Those memories are the best.

    Need a thick skin to post around here (and most fan boards) regardless of how much you know. Be positive and don't worry about it.
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    Thank you sir.

    Troll or not - we shall see as she posts more. But she was willing to cite loving games at the Swamp. If she was a Nole, I think her Nole privileges could be revoked for uttering such things. :D
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