Indian Diplomat Strip Searched for Maid Payment Dispute

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    This is mind-boggling. A diplomat from India gets into a dispute over how much she was paying her maid. Apparently, she may not have been paying her maid a living wage by State Department standards, yet she claimed she was. The obvious solution? Arrest her and strip search her. Huh? What are they looking for? The rest of the wages?

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    This administration does not seem to have any foreign relations skills whatsoever.
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    Strip searches are part of jail in-take processing. This is pretty standard across the country. Why should she be immune? She might be a diplomat of sorts, but she is not covered under diplomatic immunity. Now, if you make the argument we shouldn't be strip searching anyone going to jail prior to arraignment, that is different.
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    If it's a wages dispute, why couldn't she have been held under house arrest? She isn't accused of murder.
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    She was only in jail overnight waiting for an initial hearing or arraignment. It is standard procedure in many jails/courts such as the one in NYC to not just strip search but to swab, fingeprint, interview, and of course handcuff people in transport. There are some fairly decent arguments to be made against some of the procedures, but singling out this case might not be the best poster for it since it doesn't appear that the authorities in NYC did anything outside these standards, she's just upset that she was subjected to it.

    *It seems to me to be somewhat more serious than a simple 'wage dispute.'
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    Is this the dispute that caused the Indian government to reform all the protective barriers from around the US embassy?
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    Yes, one and the same.

    I agree with JDR on the cuffing, strip search, etc. being SOP for arrestees, but the feds' decision to prosecute this case is puzzling. Especially since the principals are already litigating in the Indian courts, one of which has issued an arrest warrant for the maid.
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    If true then the focus should be on her crime not on the fact she went through the same thing a myriad amount of American citizens have.
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    I'd strip search her too.
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    Here's what I don't get....

    I understand why the Indian government are P.O.'ed. This was handled horribly.

    However, I don't get all the street protests that have been happening in Indian over the incident. What's the motivation of the commoner to protest in the streets over the arrest of a diplomat living the highlife in the U.S.?

    If a U.S. diplomat were arrested and strip searched in Indian, no one in the U.S. would give a crap. It certainly wouldn't cause street protests like these:

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    India is not alone in its ability to be hypocritically outraged by a non-existent slight. Not incidentally, they have a real problem with how they handle rape cases over there, some calling the "rape capital of the world." Makes Tallahassee prosecutors and police look like superstars.
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    Apparently there is a widespread belief in India that Indians are unfairly discriminated against in the U.S. That belief is probably driving some of the protesting.
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    Clearly, there's hypocritical outrage by the Indian government -- that happens all the time. We do the same. For instance, our government is outraged by Kenneth Bae being held in North Korea while we continue to hold untried prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.

    But, what's the motivation of those street protestors? Is it just your standard anti-Americanism or is it something else?
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    Some of the standard stuff, imo. Maybe some left over anger from the Bhopal disaster?

    While I am not a fan of some of the invasive procedures used in booking alleged offenders used by police, nothing I've read suggests she was treated in any way that deviated from normal procedures (and they likely treated her better). She was upset and folks are using it as a launching point.
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    What????!

    Certainly no one in the United States is racist towards Indians -- especially not any high-ranking officials:

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    Classic.

    "A heartbeat away"......pathetic and scary.
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    Maybe they're protesting the fact that she wasn't raped. One protest sign (as best I can translate it) says, "Why stop with a strip search?"
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    No one has a problem with strip searches and nights spent in jail when it's just some poor person accused of a minor offense.
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    They are mad because in their culture upper and middle class people are never treated that way, even for the worst offenses, there is deference by class. A few years ago we had the temerity to search an Indian coming into the country, turned out he was a famous actor there and it turned into a big stink over there too.
    The other piece of this culturally (but related) is that given that they don't view this as fair treatment, it is taken as a swipe against their country - that we don't respect them, that we would treat someone not only of that class, but representing their country here that way.
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    So much for diplomatic immunity.
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    She was a consular official and only had partial immunity.

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