Immigrants account for all job gains since 2000

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  1. JerseyGator01
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    Given similar thoughts I have posted on this board for several years regarding the lackluster performance of the TRUE private sector since 2001, this comes as no surprise to me.

    From the link:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/3/immigrants-account-for-all-job-gains-since-2000/

    Immigrants — both legal and illegal — have accounted for all of the job gains in the U.S. labor market since 2000, according to a report that highlights the stiff competition for jobs in a tight economy as Congress debates adding more workers to the mix.

    The Center for Immigration Studies report, which is being released Wednesday, says 22.4 million immigrants of working age held jobs at the beginning of this year, up 5.3 million over the total in 2000. But native-born workers with jobs dropped 1.3 million over that same period, from 114.8 million to 113.5 million.

    Meanwhile, the number of Americans who aren’t in the labor force at all has jumped by almost 13 million to reach 48.6 million — a finding the report’s authors say signals profound changes in the American job market and challenges conventional wisdom that immigration is good for the economy.

    “The last 13 years, or even the last five years, make clear that large-scale immigration can go hand-in-hand with weak job growth and declining rates of work among the native-born,” the authors, Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler, say in their report. “Given the employment situation in the country, the dramatic increases in legal immigration contemplated by the Gang of Eight immigration bill seem out of touch with the realities of the U.S. labor market.”
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    Bump. I'm guessing most of the people who read this are already burger flippers for the lawyers so this may come as no surprise.:devil:
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    Goes along with the CBO report of what would happen if immigration bill is passed. Higher unemployment and lower wages. Funny Fred didn't seem to mind the lower wage prediction I assume because it would be unfair to illegals. Sorry Fred can't have it both ways.
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    I guess Fred's solution would be to unionize the immigrants.
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    With the unions declining membership numbers they are indeed looking at this in a way at increasing membership and hence, power again.
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    This doesn't suprise me at all. Build the freakin' wall already.
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    The increase in visas for tech workers is a huge pile of dung. 9 of the top 10 companies that use those visas are outsourcers, meaning they bring workers here, train them and send them back to other countries to pay them less.

    What they really want is more cheap labor. The tech fields require constant learning of new skills, so it's cheaper to hire new workers with new needed skills than to constantly retrain old workers. Plus, intelligent Americans are intelligent. It's not hard to look at the requirements for tech jobs and quickly realize that there are easier paths to make that amount of money that won't require constantly having to compete against younger workers.

    So what employers really mean when they say there's a shortage of US tech workers who will take the relatively low pay for the skills they have versus what they can get in other industries.

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