IG on IRS: 292 Con vs. SIX lib groups targeted

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  1. GatorGrowl

    GatorGrowl Forum Admin Staff Member GC Staff VIP Member

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    Here is the report and response by the IRS.

    http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2013reports/201310053fr.html
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    link
  3. neisgator

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    I believe the IRS.
    Honest folks.
    Nothing to see here.
  4. JerseyGator01

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    And yet not one liberal group showed up in DC to complain. I guess they were all in Texas advocating for infanticide this week.
  5. rivergator

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    I don't believe any did. Any that means???
  6. candymanfromgc

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    You outdid yourself this time. Please go see your proctologist to have your head removed.
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    Does it bother you at all that Barry might have stolen the 2012 election? And I'm not talking about the 2000 crying that GWB "stole" the election (since he had no influence over the Florida Supreme Court). I'm talking about a Nixonian, 1972-type plot to steal the election. Premeditated. Orchestrated. "Follow the money."
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    NCBull---try waking up yourself and consider that the IRS ruled against lib group in regards to group trying to claim tax exempt status. Whereas the IRS did not rule against con groups.

    Try also looking up to see how the targeting was done during GOP admins.....you just might see same sort of thing you are claiming....a disproportionate number of IRS investigations into the lib groups.

    secondly, you are also out of line commenting on me earlier in this thread since I was not yet a participant in this thread. Please desist from such attacks on me in threads to which I had not yet posted. I am not intimidated by your tactics and will request disciplinary action against you by a moderator. Thing is, I'm not surprised that you would sink to attacking a person behind their back in such a way. It fits you as well much of con tactics.
  9. fredsanford

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    No, because I don't wear a tinfoil hat.

    Now, did Bush use the NSA call spying apparatus to spy on the Kerry campaign? I'm sure he did.
  10. neisgator

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    If I need to tell you, well, the sandbox is right over there ====>
  11. rivergator

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    it would be bother me if I thought it were true. your evidence?
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    Barack Obama didn't steal a second term. GOP gave it to Obama by presenting to the voters a lame candidate known as Mitt Romney. And that Mitt's lameness as a candidate was due in great part to the GOP ultra base.

    If ultra con base continues to dictate who makes it thru GOP primaries for POTUS you can expect moderates to continue to vote for a Democrat.

    Years ago the ultra-libs had similar hold on Dem primaries resulting in candidates who were not feasible candidate to appeal to moderates. Ultra libs learned the lesson(until such time as they may forget) to not have candidate in general leection who will only appeal to the ultra base.

    Romney did what he could during GOP primaries to convince ultra con base that he was 'ultra' enough for them. And he won GOP primary. The statements he made in the primaries he could not disavow in time between GOP primaries and the general election.

    In the years before the internet candidates of both parties had relatively easy time saying one thing during primaries then flip-flopping their rhetoric during campaign leading up to general election. But now with the internet, youtube, internet news sites, message boards, etc anything a candidate says or does is readily available for scrutiny later.

    Romney did what he could to please Con base during the GOP primaries--in the process of doing that he alienated the moderates. Then after the primaries he flip flopped a good portion of his rhetoric to try to please the moderates but pissed off the base. Due to what Romney said during primaries still on moderates minds, many did not trust his new rhetoric and didn't vote for Romney

    A lesson Dems know and embrace is that a candidate for POTUS can only win the general election by having not just liberal base but also moderates voting for their candidate. GOP seems to still have the attitude that a general election for POTUS can be won with just votes from ultra con base and moderates don't matter. GOP is unwilling at this time to change their platform to include the priorities of moderates.
  13. candymanfromgc

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    What does that have to do with the IRS targeting conservative groups? Nice post though-much of which I agree with.
  14. DaveFla

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    IOW, lie... Gotcha...
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    McCain and Romney were ultra conservative?
    Interesting.
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    That's not what he said.
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    neisgator Belligerent Gator

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    It was his inference.
  18. MichaelJoeWilliamson

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    Other than.....

  19. oldgator

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    it is not what I inferred, please re-read my post....

    I made it clear that Romney(and also McCain if you want to include) deliberately had to adjust their rhetoric during th eprimaries in order to get the ultra vote in the primaries. And that after they won the priamry they both attempted to change their rhetoric to try to get the votes of moderates, independents, and possibly Dems.

    The problem with doing such flip-flopping of tone of rhetoric nowadays is that candidates can't as readily disavow what they said during primaries. This is due to internet, youtube, etc. Decades ago primaries were pretty much ignored by the news(compared to today) and main ones aware of comments in primaries were ultras of the party(be it dem or GOP).

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    Dave,

    in regard to your comment

    "IOW, lie... Gotcha..."

    you are absolutely correct......for candidates(whether Dem or GOP or libertarian, etc) to flip flop on platform stance, tone of rhetoric , etc from what the candidate said during primaries to what they say in time between primary and general election is as you said 'lie'.

    I say Dems, GOP, Libertarians, Tea-Party, etc do it...Are you about to claim that candidates of your party don't?
  20. MichaelJoeWilliamson

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    He is conspicuously absent in this thread as well as the similar thread he started.

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