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    You do that.
    What is a contemporary libertarian?
    I'm a strict Constitutional libertarian myself
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    My four would be Lysander Spooner, Henry David Thoreau, Murray Rothbard, and Ron Paul, carved solely with the use of private funds, of course.
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    You calling out someone on a dumb post, that's cute....
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    John, Paul, George, Ringo.
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    You not being able to refute me:

    Typical
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    I now understand the unbridgeable divide. No further point in wasting anyone's time. Good day.
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    If one were a strict constitutional libertarian I don't think Reagan would be particularly appealing.
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    Your attempts at being the most annoying poster don't go unnoticed.
    Try to keep up.
    No, Reagan wasnt a libertarian. Duh.
    That wasn't what this was about. It was about who would be replaced. Teddy was horrible. A socialist.

    Madison would probably be my first choice to replace him. Someone mentioned Reagan before I did. I was obviously piling on.
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    Uh huh.
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    Reagan was a much a "socialist" as Roosevelt (which is to say, not one), but carry on.
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    Thanks for being so kind and offering a nuanced rebuttal. I'm sure Rothbard, Nolan, Paul, etc. would appreciate this detailed and extensive defense.
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    Lincoln / McKinley / Garfield / Kennedy
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    One thing I always enjoy is when the American progressive left has to indulge the fact that "socialist" and "communist" and "Marxist" are still, quite deservedly, political epithets and albatrosses, even historically, when I always feel like they are dying to say they ordered the code red.
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    Please. Everyone knows your game here. It's grown tired.

    I don't need to defend crap. Your inane needling is silly.
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    Meh, I'm just more interested in the integrity of the notion. Why don't we call actual socialists and Marxists by those terms? That's all I ask. I'm quite fine with embracing actual socialists like Eugene V. Debs, or even Karl Marx as personal heroes or great thinkers, I just ask you don't besmirch their fine reputations by lumping them in with "progressive" capitalists like Obama or Rooosevelt.
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    Yes. It's just a shame the some people can't even admit where the stand on it either.
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    I'm not entirely sure why you're so defensive here. As a matter of policy and record, Reagan was not a particularly popular president among Libertarians. Hence my confusion.

    I understand you'd prefer to toss barbs than to discuss the specifics that make you a fan in the "constitutional Libertarian" sense, but at least try to be a bit more civil.
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    I would still love someone to explain exactly toward what progressives imagine they are progressing us and why it is worth going. Oh, don't worry, I will always impugn Marx for his deadly intellectual farce :)
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    That was a heaping load of crap.
    Obama and Roosevelt aren't socialists?
    Go down the Socialist platform.
    How many of them are at odds with what Obama thinks and Roosevelt thought?
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    Socialism means a single thing: direct government control of markets. I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult for people.

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