Iconic NYC experience to be banned?

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    Socialist Nanny State technocrat/wannabe Feudal Lord, NYC Mayor Elect Bill de Blasio, intends to rid the city of the menace of its iconic tourist and romantic industry of horse-drawn carriage rides.

    Because he doesn't like it, basically. He says "period" about it without even the faintest hint he's interested in putting it to the people or their representatives, in hearing facts presented on reasons, or even whether he has the lawful authority to summarily ban an entire industry from the city. This is the kind of ass chapeaux we continually see placed in charge of our major cities and we never fail to wonder why our major cities are disorderly and mismanaged basketcases to one extent or another.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...crap-horse-drawn-carriages/?intcmp=latestnews

    This is just one of those things... you can't really be an American or at least you can't really "get" America and be on de Blasio's side of it. I mean, you can be and get American and feel free to express your agreement, but there is just no way to be on his side of this and actually get this country -- same as with the soft drink sizes, salt, transfat nanny bans, or the various absurdities in San Francisco, or Rahm Emanuel's threat to blanketly ban Chik-Fil-A from the Chicago city limits. Who knows, maybe he'll want to close Aqueduct; those horses are exposed to the various pollutants of the Five Boroughs, right?
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    Unions love him. They have been waiting on him to negotiate all their open contracts that they refused to negotiate with Bloomberg
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    This made me laugh for some reason.
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    Makes me laugh too, for the lunacy of them even having to defend their profession from a socialist megalomaniac.
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    American or not, huh? Simple as that?
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    That's not what was funny about it. Animal rights people are often accused of humanizing animals, and here are the drivers speaking of the horses in humanizing terms as well.
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    Id like to know the full story, whether or not these horses are indeed being treated inhumanely

    You do see protests over their treatment at CP

    I've never thought of it as being "American", think the OP is going a little overboard with that line
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    Pretty sure you can still be American while not giving a sh$t about the dispearance of touristy BS. I say ban "Cats" and any revival of Andrew Lloyd Weber musicals next.
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    Since you asked, here is De Blasio addressing this in 2011:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-de-blasio/humane-alternatives-for-h_b_821291.html

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    Jeez, michi, can you get any more melodramatic? You can't be American blah, blah, blah. It's a tourist trap that is hardly iconic.
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    If you're able to reconcile how government being able to more or less summarily tell people what's too much cola, too much salt, too fatty food, and that they can't live out their mythic NYC romantic fantasy of a carriage ride through central park with truth, justice, and notably, the American way, you go right ahead.

    Maybe you can articulate a good idea behind this kind of infantilism and authoritarianism over free people and their business, it just won't be... the American idea. But, hey, that is okay, word from the White House is there is nothing exceptional about that idea, no more so than the Greek idea or the British idea, and presumably whatever ant farm guys like de Blasio want to govern's idea.

    Other question stands -- if this is about the horse's and not, like. Bloomberg's excesses, really just about de Blasio's taste and the sense of privilege to act, will he try to close Aqueduct? You hear all the same animal abuse talk about racing after all.
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    the horses need a better union. if they were paying dues that could get routed to the dem coffers this would not be an issue
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    From the De Blasio piece, it sounds like he wants to replace the horses with electric vehicles, because you know, its not 1890 anymore and having horses in a metropolis poses all sorts of problems, not just for the horses, but people too. "Taste" doesnt seem to have anything to do with it.
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    Wonder what the net job gains/losses will be with this F'n clown in charge. NY'ers deserve what they get for electing this POS.
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    Yeah, it's just a few jobs. It's not your family out in the cold.
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    I think the "American" Michi is lamenting about, is being able to get away with mistreating others (whether human or animal) in the pursuit of money
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    Maybe you can chill with your general overstatement of just about any issue you comment on first? Personally, I tend not to have a problem with government banning some things to improve public health such as unnatural items like transfats, just as if they would ban other chemicals in our food that could do us harm, or to ensure the drinking water is safe etc... But in your telling, freedom means no laws whatsoever, and those who might accept having some laws to help the public good are unAmerican right?
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    wow, a "POS", gtfo and mind your own business

    nobody here in NYC is telling your mayor of whatever podunk town you live in, how to run things
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    According to the DeBlasio piece, he wants to retrain the drivers to use electric vehicles so there is no loss of jobs, unless you count the horses, of course.

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